I made this post at the beginning of January, so I’d say they’re pretty tolerant.
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STFU about that lawsuit.
Do you know what actually happened?
McDonalds served coffee at boiling temperatures for years, which produced several accidents because no f***ing drink should ever be that hot.
The woman who advanced the lawsuit suffered third degree burns to her thighs and genitalia, requiring skin reconstruction, and had the lawsuit filed solely to pay her medical bills. McDonalds, naturally, fought it because how dare anyone force them to lose a single cent of money that might be spent on not serving boiling hot coffee to customers.
The judge was not amused and set the damages at a single day’s coffee profits while also forcing them to stop serving said boiling hot drink to customers, because McDonald’s had repeatedly demonstrated that they knew their product would hurt people and didn’t give a s***.
But of course the corporation had the media links and smeared the poor woman’s name as some over-litigous Karen because screw her for daring to try and get her medical bills that they caused paid.
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Seeing Failshark have to pay for their decisions would be glorious.
If Failshark went bankrupt and everyone lost their jobs it would be sad for those people as individuals but a massive victory for morality.
So far the immorality of Failshark wins. I hope this changes and these people face some consequences.
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I dont wish anyone unemployment, but I doubt the people in the trenches doing the work have anything to do with fanning the flames of the trash fire. Its so much bigger than just FatShark… we need like a new certification system. Like Rotten Tomatoes Certified Fresh, something to say you can have confidence the game is actually completed and worth your money. Theres just SO many trash fires now… RedFall being the latest, but the list is LONG. Really tired of having no confidence, I want some accountability as well. I’ll be lucky to play THIS game on my Xbox a year from when it was promised, a YEAR. Thats insane.
It’d be too easily hijacked by certain individuals who think that games including women is bad.
I can tell you why the coffee was served as hot as possible and it was done on purpose. Not to hurt people, though. It was simply assumed by the company that adults know how to behave like adults. Baseline human functions such as not taking a bath in your fresh hot coffee or checking the temperature before drinking. Shocking, I know. Assuming that fresh hot coffee is, well, really hot.
Anyway the reason for the boiling hot coffee was simple: Coffee to go was initially released purely as a “to go” product and served in thick paper mache cups meant for take-away. That never changed even when the coffee products were added as a possible side option to replace the [soft drinks / french fries] for the McMenu.
Obviously, nobody wants to arrive at work with a cold coffee or have it be room temperature by the time you get out of the parking lot. So it was served boiling hot just so it would stay warm a little longer while on the move. Yes, that requires responsibility to handle. Wouldn’t it be nice if we could live in a reasonable world?
Why bother protecting the careless? You can’t insulate such people from their own failure. With the logic of the McDonalds coffee lawsuit, you could technically speaking use the same train of thought to sue several microwave manufacturer’s for not putting a warning into their manual that microwaving your poodle could lead to it’s death…
Oh wait, something like that actually did happen, too.
This modern world is positively insane. If you purchase hot or dangerous goods, expect them to be just that. Don’t use them carelessly and then cry foul therafter, demanding damages and reparations for your own misuse!
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Isn’t the hit tap water hot enough to boil your skin off? Why do these irresponsible mains heating operators still pump DANGER into my house, damnit? Oh, I feel a lawsuit… brewing. Ahem.
For most homes, the water heater is local to the house and you can set your own temperature.
i just wanted to see what was going on in this thread and i’m honestly not surprised it’s devolved into a discussion about the mcdonalds coffee lawsuit lmao
speaking of which, check this out: McDonald's found liable in hot Chicken McNugget burn lawsuit
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Average victim-blaming mindset. Safety standards exist to prevent people from getting hurt, accidental or otherwise.
I could ask the same of the company for their lack of care. But seriously, this is your response to someone getting severe burns? Not even displaying an iota of empathy, just victim blaming?
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You get empathy when you deserve empathy. Cases where I have 100% empathy and think the company should be held liable or at the very least a compensation should be paid out from them or their insurance policy:
→ Any worker in any industry works reasonable and adheres to safety standards, yet gets injured / killed / maimed in an accident, because an appliance or tool malfunctioned or came loose that should have been reliable
→ Any damages or injuries sustained from policies known to exhaust an individual beyond what can be reasonably expected of them (such as pushing 80 hour work weeks for instance)
→ Any hazard causing injuries, that was not disclosed and could not have been expected (sudden pot hole in a bridge swallows you and drags you to the depths below, falling debris, working around toxic chemicals without being informened of it, etc.)
And finally pertaining to this discussion:
→ Any purchased appliance, tool, food or other item that was dangerous or hot in some way, despite it not being part of the intentional design and thus it being unexpectable
Say you buy a blunt object, but it turns out to be sharp and you cut yourself. Or you get something that’s supposed to be cold like a Cold Brew Latte and but the server hands you a hot coffee instead and you burn yourself.
Here it would be reasonable to be upset, because you ordered something cold and got something scalding hot in turn.
Cases that do not deserve a pay out, even though you may feel empathy for the afflicted:
->You buy something that is expected to be dangerous or hot such as a power drill or a hot coffee. You then injure yourself with the purchased goods. This is on you. You knew the risk, it is common sense that you can expect these things to be dangerous. You have no reasonable ground for a law-suit unless you can prove the damage came from the equipment being improper (the power drill had damage or the cup of the scaling hot coffee was leaky to begin with)
I think that’s very reasonable as far as expectations go. And the woman in that classic McDonalds Lawsuit case falls under the latter category. She knew the risk and she burned herself after opening the cup up to add sugar and milk (notice: She got it handed to her with the lit closed to go).
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Prepared food should be served in an edible format. You order food, you expect to be able to eat/drink it. “Boiling” coffee is not edible, and more so it isn’t safe either. And clearly the legal judgement thought the same.
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Suffering third-degree burns from a drink isn’t a reasonable expectation, put your thinking-brain to use man, jesus 
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Throwing my hat in before the thread gets lockeroo’d, I think the reasonable expectation is that hot coffee is hot and should be handled as if it were…hot.
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Not when it’s fresh hot and the heat is expected. Examples:
→ Raclette that’s being kept warm
→ Indian or Chinese food such as rice pots are often served on top of burning mini-stoves
→ Tea just after it was infused with hot water
→ And yes: Coffee that came fresh out of the coffee machine
Not everything comes immediately edible. It is reasonable of a someone servicing you to do the bare minimum to not get injured.
You can also go to your local super market and buy a stack of bananas. If you eat them with the peel, it’s on you if you get poisoned for improperly eating the product.
I am thinking. You just don’t like my thought not aligning with your perceived cognition of how this world ideally should be in your book.
If you prepare yourself fresh tea, you also have to use boiling water and when you order tea, it comes to you often hot enough to be dangerous, if you were to immediately pour it over you.
The same can be said for soup, it is also usually served right after it boiled.
I don’t get where this idea comes that people must be protected from every potential hazard at all times. It’s funnily enough a very dangerous way of thinking, because going in with this expectation you create a world where you eventually cannot buy a knife because it could be too dangerous for it’s cutting potential.
Addendum: Really, you’d have hated living in the 80’s or 90’s. Stuff was wild then. Did you ever see one of those open European elevators? They had no doors and moved without stopping. Sort of like a moving platform in Super Mario did.
They eventually fell out of favor with companies and stopped being built, partially for their hazard potential. But they were also really damn cool.
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You guys are talking Liebeck v. McDonald’s Restaurants?
“Her nephew parked so that Liebeck could add cream and sugar to her coffee. She placed the coffee cup between her knees and pulled the far side of the lid toward her to remove it. In the process, she spilled the entire cup of coffee on her lap.” - Greenlee, Kramer v. Java World, 26 Cap. U. L. Rev. at
718.
Noooo, it was absolutely not her fault. That’s why we can’t have nice things…
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Clicked on this thread expecting edgelords and oh boy did this thread ever deliver 
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Do you look at traffic accidents, say the drivers are to blame and end it there? Do you never think about the conditions which create the situations in which accidents happen in the first place?
“Why the hell do speed bumps exist, drivers should just not be stupid”
“Why the hell did the coffee lawsuit happen, people should just not interact with their drink that they bought intending to drink from.”
The more likely something is to happen, the more it does.
If coffee is served at a temperature far higher than what is necessary it is more likely that when an accident happens the damage will be greater.
If road infrastructure is poorly designed then accidents are more likely to happen.
This is what I mean when I said to put your thinking-brain to use, to not stop at a surface-level explanation and think about how something came to happen.
The temperature needed for third-degree burns bad enough to need hospitalization and skin grafting is far higher than what is reasonable or even necessary. A company’s neglect led to people getting badly hurt and there’s no need to defend that, even less so to blame the victims.
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why was the coffee that hot
Can we get back to insulting Failshark please? Unless we are going to weaponize Mcdonalds coffee against this horrid company it is irrelevant given the topic.
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