I don't like Masozi and Hallowette

I would be willing to bet that it is a title Hallowette gave herself and she actually has no real standing or authority beyond being part of a retinue. There are so many people who have taken on titles or ranks they have absolutely no right to all the way through our actual history, whether for self-aggrandizement, or for fraudulent purposes, or for so many reasons, so it would not be surprising for such a member of a Rogue Trader’s retinue to have a self-styled rank to give themselves an air of seeming importance to those outside of the retinue. I do not for one minute think that Hallowette has ever done anything that would allow her to be officially referred to as a Commodore.

Entirely possible, and she clearly isn’t commanding a small flotilla herself currently, but we have no idea really. Such a rank could also have been inherited or purchased in the Rogue Trader sphere as opposed to organically earned. It could be a front for some other scheme of Grendyl’s. There’s all sorts of what-ifs, but we do know that’s the title she openly uses, is allowed to use aboard an Inquisitor’s vessel with its own Shipmistress, and feels comfortable openly getting up to shady stuff that many of the other higher-ups are in on (or don’t feel strong enough to confront and stop). That state of affairs implies some significant leverage or value beyond just being a shopkeep.

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You know I think there’s a bit of world building that FS could have done better here. In GW’s stories Rogue Traders are a really mixed bag. They are often very wealthy and have a permission slip from the imperium to go about here and there. Wealth and sometimes-de jure, sometimes-de facto backing of the imperium will go to their heads giving a sense of impunity. They will sometimes trade in xenos artifacts for instance or otherwise skirt the law. Having an inquisitor on board can sometimes be a welcome way to grant cover to their illicit dealings. It’s appropriate that Brahms’ crew be as colorful and offbeat as they are and the tension it creates with the inquisitor’s retinue is spot on.

However I just don’t think that this side of the 40K universe gets that much attention compared to the space marines/crusades/bolter porn side. So it would have been nice if there’d been a little bit more build up. Maybe a cutscene from when brahms and co were operating without Grendyl in tow.

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Yeah when you first drop into Relay Station, she talks about how air doesn’t taste right unless it’s full of stims :joy:

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Yeah seems fine to me tbh, I mean it’s not like these characters are actually speaking English anyways. But it would be obnoxious to have them speak some made up languages with subtitles so they have them speak English for the sake of gameplay, and the various accented versions of English are stand-ins for “this character is a bit of a lowlife” so they have an exaggerated chav accent or whatever.

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It’s the same thing as Riekspiel in fantasy, it’s not english in world; it’s a fantasy version of German, same for Bretonnian, but for most player those language will be english cause it’s the language of the owner of the Ips.

You being bothered by the presence of an african accent is just telling about yourself.

Do you expect the Khan to speak Posh English ? Or Vulkan to speak with the accent of Dundee ? Or even have the Necron speak in the language of Shakespeare ?

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Honestly, yes. The accent was comical at first, but it gets really obnoxious as well.

Oh man I hope they do tbh

Hallowete is nothing else but Ms Micro-transactions to me. She would be spaced ages ago after her attitude towards Morrow. Masozi…with her cheery lines just doesn’t fit into the setting. Both are just “slightly” spoiling the atmosphere.

The game in general has few voicelines and convos which should be just removed: all lines about headshotes and hitting weakpoints, to quote our folk hero “This is NOT CoD”, just remove this sh…One of the vets shouts like he is on a rodeo, remove that.

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Yes, exactly. There’s too much fun going on in this game. Obviously not from a gameplay perspective, but within the story and setting. I was under the impression this game would be more Horror themed.

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Well I’m certainly not the one that is bothered by it…

And

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dude does not understand the emperor was a tulpa created by a bunch of black shamans and is in fact african himself.

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[Low Gothic Article Lexicanum](https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Low_Gothic#:~:text=Low%20Gothic%20(or%20Imperial%20Gothic,some%20medieval%20and%20feral%20worlds.)

Unfortunately I have not the rule book at hand where it is specificly stated, that High Gothic is not Latin but represented by it (and the “Latin” used in WH40k publications is btw an anglicised version and no real Latin) GW also stated in several Publications, that Low Gothic is not English, but English would be used for the customer to ve abke to understand whats going on.

The article above has citation to check on the matter if you have the source material at hand.

False High Hothic is an ancient language used by scholars. On some isolated worlds variations of it are still spoken (check Gaunt’s Ghosts Novels for example the Nightgane of Gereon)

So plz enlighten me with the sources for this statement. I beg you proof your fact. Never heard of it, never read of it…

Because it is stated in the rule books, in several novels and so on. The English texts you read, are representations so you might understand it …

And as many books, audios, movies, games different dialects have been established. Hell there is even a Gaunt’s Ghosts Short Story about Intercultural Affairs influencing the wider Sabbat Crusade (The Vincula Insurrection it’s called if I remember correctly)

To be honest I think you can’t be that

because you are still not delivering a proof why different non-British Accents should be

[quote=“Buck_Wylde, post:50, topic:90624”]
not lore accurate
[/quote] Nor are you falsifying any of the given sources I and others provided (in lore and real life btw)

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The vibes are sus, can we stop feeding these threads already? It’s pretty blatant that the lore angle’s just an excuse to “ask questions” for a lot of the folks stirring this stuff up.

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We’re talking about an an IP that substantially mutates with every author and edition, where canon is never set in stone, and you are getting hung up on “authenticity”?

This is a game where the literal underhive scum speak and write their own language, and you are mad that a single african accented character…exists.

Again, nobody complained about an African-accented Inquisitor 20 years ago. This setting has all sorts of linguistic variety. Not sure why this characters slightly thicker accent is an issue now.

You’re not taking a principled stand on authenticity, you’re projecting your twitter-centric worldview all over the forum.

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Personally I’d like to see more variety in accents! Imo this game could really use some American English accents. Specifically valley girl

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Read the whole passage:
High Gothic - scholars
Low Gothic - Lingua Franca

If you state such things you should be ready to deliver proof it, that’s how discussions work

As stated above I do not have them at hand, but I could come up with some secondary sources like WH40k-Wikis or the Lexicanum

I do not know, I haven’t consumed all of them. But many I heard an read were clearly not European …

Quote didn’t work properly, said youbdelivered no proof that non-British accents were not lore accurate

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Nearly choked on my coffee, kinda hilarious that we’re 40k Wagner PMC. Thnx for the laugh and reflection kind stranger. Really hammers home the grimdark “everyone’s just different shades of badguy” vibe the universe seems to go for.

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Racists always trying to ruin my hobby with their politics.

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Okay, you wanted secondary sources, here we go, even though secondary sources are never es strong as primary ones:

[Low Gothic](https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Low_Gothic#:~:text=Low%20Gothic%20(or%20Imperial%20Gothic,some%20medieval%20and%20feral%20worlds.)

High Gothic

Latin in Warhammer 40k

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