I play on malice a moderate amount, though I also do heresy and damnation. Just ran into a guy in a malice maelstrom with his 1k mission badge. He grabbed a med kit, waited until the elevator arrived, and threw it down outside the elevator while everyone had full health, then the elevator departed leaving it behind. I said “ffs” and get a “thanks!” back.
Another guy in same match with a name like random characters pulled a demonhost everyone else was avoiding, and honestly I’m glad those just eat whoever pulls them.
Yesterday I ran into an ogryn making an effort to consume all the ammo while doing nothing but sliding so he looked silly, (500 specific mission badge) and a psyker who would just tag investigation objects but not complete them, and would walk over mats tagging them but not picking them up.
I think the game is attracting griefers, or bitter players are turning into them, since these guys weren’t noobs. Many were on lowbie toons but had frames showing they aren’t new.
The last one I blocked and left mission, but if this is the start of a trend, it’s going to be an issue fast.
like in your gate keep thread faster movement for everyone thread - expectations about others will make you only as bitter as they may already are.
playing pubg only the game can be very frustrating and match you with people you dont like to play with 10 times in a row so you quit for today and another day it’s just fine.
Griefing is defined as really hindering others to play further.
Not using an elevator to procedd would be griefing.
wasting Meds, Ammo or even shooting barrels or Burster to damage a teammate is slightly griefing, but not really hindering to proceed.
There is a kick option for that or leave mission.
On Topic, i dont experience it is more common than it ever was.
It’s existent no doubt.
Havent played Malice for long time, but i know some speedrunners do their weeklies on Malice and dont care for anyone else.
There was a thread some weeks ago who said exactly so.
A lot of the gamers here dont give much about team spirit or their fellow players like mostly in online gaming.
I’d like to know your source for the definition of griefing.
Just a quick Google identifies griefing and griefers as bad-faith action/actors that intentionally use aspects of a game in unintended ways to annoy, harass, or irritate other players, ie. wasting ammo and meds.
The kicking mechanic is in a complicated situation, as if even one other person in the group is supporting of that kind of behavior, you won’t be able to kick them.
Leaving the game is essentially rewarding their behavior, as that is likely their goal. Of course the flip side of that is to subject yourself to abuse simply to spite someone else. That’s really a personal decision everyone needs to make for themselves.
See Solkard’s definition. This isn’t selfishness I’m talking about, or just playing your own way, and if they didn’t have long term player frames I’d say some might just be noobs of whom nothing can be expected.
Griefing is when you know better and do the bad thing on purpose.
Here’s an example of griefing. You are crossing a narrow bridge. There is a barrel on it. Guy behind you is waiting for you to be right distance, shoots barrel, tossing you off bridge, thereby team killing you in a game with no friendly fire. Sometimes you might think ‘meh, accident.’ Then they do it again. And again.
Griefers come in tides, when you hit a skill ceiling in these games, its easy to start leaking from the sides.
Solutions to griefers? There are none.
Mitigation I’ve implemented? Review players during the lobbies (if you get the chance). And a big one, is play with friends! Or join discord to try and find sane lobby goers.
It only takes one slight for a griefer to tilt, so dont crack the door open for them! As an Ogryn main babysitting them with pickups and tagging ammo to ensure that they are the main character is important.
The biggest piece of advice I can give is to simply leave the game if you identify something that involves a griefer, but dont give them anything the chew on
your response is what they live for, give them nothing!
mine?
it’s the definition i learned playing Ultima Online in the last millenia
corpsecamping for example was one of the first forms of griefing i know.
The guy made the choice to play on that difficulty.
If it is so boring that the guy “had to” start griefing to not fall asleep, it is still entirely the guy’s fault for doing that.
Aside from that, some people have a low personal skill ceiling , at which point they will no longer get better, independent of how much practice they get.
Imo you should not join any difficulty without the intent and the expectation of carrying your own weight (unless you are premade and your mates know they are gonna carry you).
If you are standing on top of it, it’s as easy to click the interact button as it is the tag button. That guy did the same on the investigation segment, where he would light up the objects but not finish the scan. Wasn’t as bad as the other guy who made a point of wasting every resource… That said, I don’t think they were together since he commented it was easier to deal with a horde on one side of a lock and the other guy cussed him as a wuss because it was too easy no matter what.
And it wasn’t that hard a level really, except we had two guys not seriously contributing and getting in the way.
Then they both got in the end elevator and let the whole horde in with them and watched as me and the other player had to clear the whole thing.
I encountered some griefers recently, but they were so transparent about the fact that they were griefing and not interested in playing the game properly that I cut my losses early and left for another match so I didn’t feel much about it. I actually feel as though in my matches griefers have become rarer. When the game first came out there were votekick spammers, weirdos in chat or voice chat be it in the ship and or pubs, neurotic micromanagers and cringy roleplayers. Now they tend to be barrel griefers or ammo thieves.
