Giving people what they want

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@CommanderJ

Player addiction systems are most often used in mobile and other free to play games, but it is painfully obvious that FatShark has intentionally gone as far down the RNG player addiction systems as possible. There is no excuse for this, it is simply a matter of being malicious and wanting to extort your customers as much as possible.

That’s their main error… You’re right about the mobiles games, but I guess they had in mind the RPGs addiction system.
Thinking that a system that will require you to spend lot of time in it and with a system that forces you to do it is something that works in a RPG, cause it is the spirit of such game.
However, DT is not an RPG (sidenote, I don’t play RPG due to the time you have to spend on a game… and that’s why I said it lot of times… I played too much DT).
Next Tide game they should remove any RNG part of their system. I fear that, after 3 games with RNG, they won’t go this way, sadly.
However, a system without any RNG, and where you will have to choose strength and weakness of a weapon, would be surely interesting to play with it.

Nota: I say next Tide game cause I don’t expect them to rewritte entirely the game now with a total different system… as I said it several times…

@CommanderJ

Just cast your mind back to the mindblowing “progression” system the game launched with. No Brunt, everything was time gated RNG. They only very reluctantly added Brunt, and made it so hopelessly bad as to be an outright scam to steal ordo dockets (progression) from the players.

I have to agree on this… Brunt is just a robber… and I don’t use it for this reason.
Sadly it was described with these words:

@FatsharkCatfish

Acquiring weapons through this new requisition system in the Armoury, will give players a common (Profane rarity) weapon of a varying item rating according to their character’s current level. It is worth noting that Profane weapons in Darktide have the most potential of becoming powerful weapons in combination with their base modifiers and via upgrades through crafting.

I can say this is the contrary.
Using Brunt is just burning money for getting… maybe… 1 not bad weapon (I did not say a good one), and sometimes you can find a correct one… very rarely you find something great.
This means you have to invest millions to get enough weapons to craft several same weapons to eventually get what you want…

Better to use the shop… you spend 20k, you get what you want. However, you have to waaaaaaaaaiiiiiitttttt…

@CommanderJ

The mission system is also RNG, no doubt yet another completely misguided and failed attempt at FOMO and ‘retention’.

I guess you mean the missions board…
There were better ways to do it… however, they introduced Auric that I think that can cover the wishes of people that like really hard missions.

@CommanderJ

They know that they could please a significant amount of their players by simply removing the locks, but they are desperate to keep as many of the malicious systems in place for the Xbox release, in the hope that console players will be more trained to accept those systems by previous games, and stay longer than PC gamers did.

At this time, I would advice them to introduce a red weapon system…

@ggg

DT had its moment whenit got released, but it just got boring after 200h

I love it yet… but the lack of different situations is making it repetitive. Even my wife can now, just by looking my screen, see how much time is needed to complete a mission…
We need badly content. Subclasses, maps, missions… weapons (in my opinion, not a real priority, especially for classes that have lot of different weapons… it is for Ogryns/psykers however)…

@derpherp

Another example of ‘give the people what they whey want’: the shirtless bug.

Indeed… they should have let this in the game.