FS Please say something or rethink your PR

Expecting?

A fat load of nothing, or a grind for a third crafting resource, or some other slap in the face. I have little to no confidence in the ability of Fatshark to listen.

Wanting?

Deterministic weapon itemization, whether that’s accomplished by removing the garbage stat bars for something more defined, giving us a method to pick out specific perks and blessings freely, or bringing back the original system involving swapping out parts: it needs to be accessible, it needs to be deterministic, and it needs to be fun.

If there is any further RNG involved in this I’m just going to walk away from the game, the forums, everything. Because Fatshark has two years of consistent feedback that RNG is terrible, and if they continue to ignore it, they can’t be helped.

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Considering nearly all the drama that comes from my favorite games stems from Discord, well, suffice to say, I disagree on this.

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Because the people that moderate Discord channels are usually narcissists, push agenda’s and silence most criticism.

And far too eager to ban people based on personal feelings, such as having a differing of opinion.

You’re being obtuse.

If a Dev studio want to make a melee centred game but testers want to have a ranged centred game, should they change the game base ? No, we’re here because it’s a FS game, then you try to change things with FS’s dev. Not by forcing them, because that doesn’t work like that

Well, maybe @Hank_jw will ban us all here one by one and problem solved :grin:

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Telepots if very vocally critical of the game and is apparently in this testing group.

How do you square this?

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Agreed. I want that type of system too. All the playtesters do. Everybody hates the current RNG casino; it hasn’t persisted this long because playtesters have been telling them “no no it’s fine!” Far from it.

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You guys don’t seem to believe that a real-time communication channel like Discord can be used in some way other than the memelord gaming Discords you are aware of. Again, I point to Slack and other similar systems and the Discords where game dev gets done. Apples and oranges.

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So what you’re telling me is that Fatshark will ignore not just the player base in general, but even their handpicked selection of special play testers, and there’s nothing we can do to affect their decisions.

Lovely.

So yeah, maybe my idea of an open beta wouldn’t accomplish anything, and this company is beyond saving.

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Seeing as an itemisation update is announced, I don’t think that entirely correct, but more a case of FS trying to find an equilibrium between making things like how people want, and not making Brunt/Gifts/Melk unneeded after a while.

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If FS wants those shops to not be unneeded they could simply make them not RNG garbage. They are the developers, how things function is what they have full control over.

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No, because it’s the people running the show are the problem.

If players don’t want an insane woke agenda in your game, pushing ideologies based on lies and falsehoods, they air their views and promptly get banned and silenced and labelled racist bigots.

And there is a difference in mindset between using such tools in a work environment and expecting the public to use them the same way as it is usually the vocal minority that participate.

Which is what I think will happen.

I don’t think they’ll take out the locks, just make it much easier to have great bases

T-minus 2 seconds to broke brain wOkE ranti-oh wait nevermind there he goes.

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Would be a massive mistake, as you will still end up wasting resources and dockets and time, by fecking around still.

There’s a reason he’s on ignore and you’re not.

I dislike you personally, but you’re not fully brain rotted and trying to insert pointless culture war nonsense into every conversation.

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Well thanks, Raggy, but honestly we don’t know each other personally!

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We will have to wait and see how the itemisation update turns out.

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He is still wrong because he intentionally misunderstands the argument against discord. Yes feature wise it is no different from slack or teams. But the difference is that one set of tools is used by people getting paid for a job, hence them bringing a modicum of professionalism to the table.

And the other is discord. Populated by random people and moderated by guys whose sole qualifications is spending an unhealthy amount of their time fixating on a single topic or game and taking literally everything as a personal attack, silencing actual discourse and critique through bans and mutes.

So yeah. F discord as a tool for selecting ‘critical’ play testers.

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It’s just an example, and has been happening in other games and in discord channels, even HD2.

How can you have what you pointed if the if people are going to be banned and ignored because of difference of opinions.

My point is, it will just turn into an echo chamber on “any” subject, because the mods and admins are inherently biased and useless.

Like me getting banned from the Discord server for the reasons I suggested above.

And how you have just entirely proved my point.