I know you cleared Havoc. Jsat also cleared Havoc with 4 Ogryns. You know why? Because they wanted a challenge.
I’m not asking if you can do H40 with Ogryn. I’m asking if you think Ogryn is balanced in comparison with other classes.
Since you keep saying the other classes have a “get out of jail free” button and to play Ogryn well you have to become better, you did answer.
You consider Orgyn to take more skill, so indirectly you admit Ogryn isn’t on the same level as the other classes.