Hello I have no idea why you have an obsessive hate for me but thats pretty un healthy.
anyways could you please stop saying im not showing off the class with realistic crit as that claim is entirely ridiculous unless you run a crit stim (most people dont they run rending or fire rate or both) or run the crate to stacking stim effects (which is a bug) 35 to 55% crit chance is actually the realistic cap for this class. your claim that this class has 80% crit in content is objectively incorrect i assume you just dont know ho wmuch crit it actually gets 10 from base 5 from aura 15/20 from keystone and another 20 from float like a butterfly which ends you off at a cap of 50.
if you do not believe that crit chains matter at 50% crit then you are just mathematically wrong. as critting 3 times per coin flip is a significant increase over just hoping for a flat coin flip to win in your favor
âItâs a valuable tradeoff and itâs worth losing some raw power on certain targets for.â you are not losing some raw power you are losing about 40 to 60% of your potential damage cap i have personally in the hundred or so havoc 40s i have played with this class never been out damaged by any dual smg hive scum. the mobility is not a real trade off as you can simply sprint then slide to shoot on the move with the iag. so either i am a fantastic player which im sure you would deny or the iag is just noticeably stronger with no real trade off
im not entirely sure how much you know about the numbers off the top of your head so im sorry if i said anything that you already know but it does not seem like you are approaching this very unfairly as 3 crits for 520 dmg for the price of rolling just 1 crit is actually a significantly higher average number then 1 crit 50% of the time for a max of 220
also you do know the dual smgâs are bugged correct? i dont know how to link to other threads but it is an acknowledged bug on this very thread that the uziâs are firing about 30% slower then they are intended to which hurts their dps out put significantly. i would agree with you that the trade off is not a big deal when that is fixed as ironically it would put their close range dps in line with the iag something you seem to be against?
i do find it odd that they are in fact intended to be stronger then they are but you seem to be angry at me for suggesting they should be closer to how they are intended to be i apologize if i mis understood anything have a good day
i dont think anyone is out right objectively wrong to disagree with me that would be an incredibly absurd notion. i understand peoples hesitancy to accecpt psykanium footage as it isnt entirely representative of âreal gameplayâ i just hope people also accecpt that it is the only fair way to benchmark numbers as it removes variables i even say in the video that if you find in your matches these other factors to be of value to you then by all means go for it
I donât know seems an obvious short-coming but also does every class specific weapon need to be best in slot as well? Many weapon fall far below in performance and due for a balance pass as well.
It has different blessings, slightly more ammo and slightly more base damage at the cost of this crit chain issue and short range that many guns struggle with but short controlled bursts help with clutch shots.
it actually has less base damage which is something i show off i know on the weapon card the number is higher but in actual gameplay it just isnt for some reason. you hit even body shots harder on the iag and its blessing pool reaches a higher % of power gained then blaze away pinning fire does crit chaining and having noticeably stronger crits is somewhat of a big deal though on a class with a big focus on crits i believe
I think this is just bad number reporting, the dual SMGs already out-damage the auto pistol on a per shot basis and shoot a little faster as is. if it were 25 rounds a second itâd be like 33% more DPS than right now and the auto pistol would look even worse by comparison.
aye but thats a separate conversation entirely i only reference it as it is a confirmed bug just as a way to say im not off base when i say they should do more dmg the stubbs are. well they deserve their own discussion haha
20% from desperado which is also a cool blessing and then also a small node 5%. Also I forgot if the dual uzis have an innate crit but thatâs there too. You seem to be leaving out quite a lot in your honest & good math.
You probably donât invite any when you already play it so thatâs a funny thing to say. Just wanted to point that out
Youâre ignoring that the autopistols have better spread and wield times and brace times.
Fatshark balances around bugs. This isnât the own you think it is.
Overall I give this a 3/10 in effort, made up numbers and tried to be passive aggressive while being wrong. Classic
I think its a lot more likely that theyâll just update it to say 18.whatever rounds a second. But with how crazy theyâve been on buffs it could very well go either way at this point.
I maintain that there are no advantages when the âmobility advantagesâ of the Dual Autopistols is so minor. If the IAG handled like a Power Sword, Iâd agree with you, but it is still a pretty mobile weapon.
Yes, but itâs still very low. IAG is very, very controllable with a bit of practice.
i dont know how to box words like you did so youâll have to forgive me if this is a bit hard to read
i did forget about the 5% little node youâre right as for 20% from desperado that is not a commonly taken blessing as youâd have to give up either 30% or 25% consistent strength which is obviously a big down grade if im being honestly i forgot they could even take that blessing as in not a single one of my havoc 40 games i didnt see a single person take it so my bad
âYou probably donât invite any when you already play it so thatâs a funny thing to say. Just wanted to point that outâ what? im not sure why you feel the need to take jabs at me with that i dont invite anyone i just do open lobbys? or get invited to them but mostly open public games is it really that hard to believe i might be right and basing my understanding on that? also who should i invite? can i have their fs code id gladly play a game with who ever this mysterious god scum is and see if they can out dmg me i love slightly competitive stuff like that
âYouâre ignoring that the autopistols have better spread and wield times and brace times.â im sorry but this is incorrect they do not have better spread that is easy to prove by just going in game and shooting with them the auto pistol recital grows much larger.
âFatshark balances around bugs. This isnât the own you think it is.â no they do not? they tend to fix them and i dont know what you mean by the own i think it is? i think it is just proof that they are going to be buffed when that is fixed its more so inevitably
âOverall I give this a 3/10 in effort, made up numbers and tried to be passive aggressive while being wrong. Classicâ well thats just mean for no reason im sorry you felt i was being passive aggressive that isnt my intention made up numbers? excuse me? i clearly referenced the in game values i pulled from which numbers did i make up can you cite them? and what am i wrong about exactly can you show me proof of it?
Tanner explained his points respectfully and he sand here feels compelled to respond with their whole I rate your points a 3/10
Like seriously get out of your own ass
Its disrespectful and adds nothing to the discussion, this it just adds both to any sort of discussion and itâs just forum elitism that divides us.
You do not get to whine about disrespect when you act like this, sorry bro. Respect is mutual, youâd do well to learn this whenever interacting with anyone.
um im sorry but is there something im not understanding? im not whining about respect at all?in fact i dont think i ever even said the word respect im kind of getting the feeling like you have something against me personally im sorry if i have upset you in the past somehow
im kind of getting the feeling like you have something against me personally im sorry if i have upset you in the past somehow