Dood i am just asking for you to elaborate / explain on why the other guy is wrong. I am not taking his Side or anyones here because i am way to drunk for that. Just curious for a better explanation than the constant throwing around of insults and scratching at the one thing xy said incorrectly, mispelled, concstructed their sentence or what not you know what i mean.
Iâm not taking a high horse, unlike you Iâm not whining about disrespect. I donât get it, I donât give it, I have no problem.
Look if he just disagreed with Tanner it would have been fine. Thatâs discourse we can all have our own opinion. Throwing in the whole 3/10 elitism is why we have problems here in the first place.
Good god, dude, stop harassing people. I just shared Tannerâs video and youâre derailing this into endless attacks upon someone who was not originally involved.
Dude everytime there is a slight or perceived slight towards you you claim how no one is any better.
Youâre trying to claim the moral high ground donât deny it.
Consistent, except on the things youâre complaining about a lack of dps on, bosses and ogryns. Which desperado is almost always procced on.
You have 100s of H40 games, you should know people donât invite two Hive Scum players to one game at all, especially not to double up on desperad
While moving specifically, you may compare this.
That is correct, that youâre losing some raw power without all the strength blessings, but with more accuracy & certain blessings, like Run Nâ Gun/Blaze Away & thereâs more bullets hitting targets, equaling more death in my experience & mind you, Iâm a sweat-lord at the game too. So, in turn, itâs worth it, because if youâre not hitting the targets for them to die more frequently, youâre losing DPS. More Strength means nothing if youâre not hitting the targets, because the accuracy sucks in my experience using them. With no accuracy to gain the damage/DPS in the first place to melt them. With all Strength nodes, you have to be directly in their faces just about, which is more dangerous too, mind you & I donât find it to be worth it for an extra 25%, itâs something, but meh honestly. Iâve been doing Havoc runs back & forth on both blessings, all Strength blessings & Run Nâ Gun & clearing with more accuracy with partial Strength was even better in my experience. The combination of accuracy & Strength was a lot better even Scoreboard-wise after some testing. I value this much more in my eyes. But feel free to do whatever you want. Testing things in the Psykhanium is absolutely fine, checking numbers objectively speaking, but in practice, targets do move & itâs a different story because theyâre not static entities.
No, Iâm not trying to take the moral highground. You disrespected me, I disrespected you, and you started whining about the disrespect. Thatâs YOU trying to take the moral highground actually. What are you even trying to accomplish?
Finally someone being reasonable.
Respect
um excuse me but i never complained about a lack of dps on ogryns? just a dps in general which again they are bugged so that is right on the money.
âYou have 100s of H40 games, you should know people donât invite two Hive Scum players to one game at all, especially not to double up on desperadâ really? is this a thing people do? that kind of shocks me not gonna lie i let anyone join my games with any build? i dont think theres a reason to enforce class or build comps in havoc 
and people should be accepted with what ever they feel like brining i know me and my friend/ friends can just duo the havoc 40 if its really needed ive personally never ran into anyone in my circles saying we cant let 2 scums in etc
âWhile moving specifically, you may compare this.â oh ok sure that is probably true i just know in my experience i dont have any issues with aiming so you may be right and i just never noticed
as for the other stuff like swap speeds yeah i just dont swap off my gun almost ever so its not really a relevant factor imo
i do agree with that that if you take run n gun you hit more which is very valuable and i even mention it as a viable option that some people do in fact that is something i even used to do my self but i adjust my play style to leave me closer to targets to try and take advantage of the extra mobility so i can push for higher strength to try and bridge the dmg gap.
i found even then the higher base accuracy of the iag on top of doing in some cases double and triple the dmg just out weighed any potential benefits greatly
âConsistent, except on the things youâre complaining about a lack of dps on, bosses and ogryns. Which desperado is almost always procced on.â also may i ask why this is even relevant as the dual uzis gain so little dmg from crit wouldnât taking another flat dmg blessing just be much better? like id take run n gun for the dmg alone over desperado
Which is it? Why so surprised I assume one thing then directly contradict yourself afterwards?
At this point I suspect youâre a chronic liar.
Again, Fatshark balances around bugs. Near launch there were weapons that couldnât get headshots because of a bug, and Fatshark adjusted their balance repeatedly before fixing the bug
âWhich is it? Why so surprised I assume one thing then directly contradict yourself afterwards?
At this point I suspect youâre a chronic liar.â excuse me what? what about this is a contradiction and why do you feel the need to insult me ive tried to be nice to you also that is a crazy thing to just assume about someone because of a forum post you possibly mis understood or i poorly worded.
im really struggle to see the lie or contradiction there? i said i let anyone join with any build and the quote below that says âwith that i dont invite anyone i just do open lobbys?â i again literally say i just do open lobbyâs or get invited to games can you please explain what about this makes me a liar and or is contradiction im really having a hard time understanding
âAgain, Fatshark balances around bugs. Near launch there were weapons that couldnât get headshots because of a bug, and Fatshark adjusted their balance repeatedly before fixing the bugâ
but they did fix the bug? so what exactly is your point here?
You said you have other hive gangers in your games because you âdonât invite anyoneâ and âget invited to lobbiesâ
Then afterwards you say you let anyone join your games with any build
Which is it?
Only after they already balanced the weapons around it. Which is where we are now. They already did balance passes on the bugged autopistol. Itâs not a recent bug.
âYou said you have other hive gangers in your games because you âdonât invite anyoneâ and âget invited to lobbiesâ
Then afterwards you say you let anyone join your games with any buildâ
again what? im sorry i dont understand what you are taking issue with here i host open lobbies and i also get invited to games? im sorry is that not normal? im not sure i understand why you think its mutually exclusive to have friends that invite you to games then when you arent playing with friends you just host your own games? or for example if theres an open slot in a game i get invite to a random person fills it. i really dont see how this makes me a compulsive liar or what ever
What really need buff is stub pistols, they are miserable to play without very specific blessings.
can you please provide reference to the patch you are referring to?
Aye, IAG still easy to control
But both you and I agree that IAG has a higher ceiling, so I donât see why it shouldnât be better than dual autopistols instead of demanding dual autopistols to be buffed
its more that its significantly better and the ways in which the dual auto pistol are worse ie it gaining way less crit dmg seems to runs at odds with the way the class works