Description of the talent :
+25% critical chance & +60% sway reduction while using your ranged weapon’s alternative fire, but loose 0.75 stamina per second and an additional 0.25 per shot.
The description doesn’t include an important detail : At 0 stamina the talent is disabled.
Knowing back on the day this wasn’t the case, as many i was unaware of this change, you could deduce at 0 stam it’s normal for the perk to not operate but Vet is not a class now for it’s stamina regen.
After test the perk is not as good as it look.
A big risk knowing the stamina deplete almost instantly for merely some crits and stability you’ll probably never notice it being up or not.
The only way to keep this active is… getting shot which give you stamina, sorry but veteran is no longer a sitting tank anymore.
So what do ? The risk and reward doesn’t seems fair to me.
Run it with duck and dive and a ranged weapon with ghost and if there are shooters around you’ll aggressively regen stamina as you plink heads. Love it for my laspistol Vet. You can just stand in the open clicking on gunners pretty much completely safe from them with perma +25% crit chance.
We can argue it works with hellbore as well, revolver too, but they have surgical.
Beside using ghost which is niche, or the dodge to stam, that is too much pricey
Hellbore doesn’t reach max surgical stacks before you fire unless you’re asleep at the wheel so it still helps there a fair bit with crit consistency too. I don’t think it’s that niche, Vet has good stam regen delay nowadays and a bunch of the keystones have stam regen built in. I don’t think it’s that niche.
Also ghost is really good. If it’s “niche” that’s just people having bad opinions frankly. Duck and dive also isn’t that much expenditure it’s at the very top of that branch. Yes Vet points are more stretched than they’ve ever been but that’s a general problem, not a deadshot/duck n dive problem.
Target down modifier for focus target and invigorated for weapone specialist.
With the last one you can quickley switch to your mele and back to ranged to regain 20% stamina.
But you have to kill something with your ranged first and obviusly weapon equip time can be a problem. So you’d want to use some quick draw weapons for that.
Weapon choice is very important for deadshot in general, thankfully we have more options now with the new patch
if you choose the 10% crit on full mag, it makes it so you only need 6-7 stacks to get guaranteed crit (6 stacks with an additional 5% somewhere). It works alright when dealing with groups of armored elites. Other weapons are more efficient in ttk, but less efficient with the ammo considering you can choose to have crits consume no ammo with the helbores (which keeps the full mag bonus going too). Not likely a great build, but it is a build.
I dont like it in general, runnning out of stam can leave you exposed. The trade-off isn’t worth it, especially with other talent and blessing crit bonuses. Maybe on Helbore.
Deadshot’s sway reduction can make bolt gun ads much better.
And increase effective range of braced autoguns, especially with executioner stance. Really helps to snipe specials and ranged elites from afar.
in those vids you are just in close contact with some regular shooters, no special, no elites, no melee added in the mix.
Price : curio stamina/regen, talent opposite branch.
This is pure offensive, cost on your your defense a lot, this is pure bait.
Without anything to cushion the stamina problem it always feel pretty suicidal to run it with any gun imo, even on revolver.
and it’s not like it’s guarantee crit either, if you’re unlucky and have to take more shot you’re likely will be in real dangerous position after that.
I only find it best use on gun that have naturally accurate hip fire like Laspistol or Plasmagun since you can choose to ads only when you really want something to die fast.
yah, I was hoping for some synergy talents that worked along side it with the rework, like getting headshots replenishing stamina, or something (which is ironically one of the actual worst weapon traits to have in vt2). There’s nothing to synergize with it other than just building more stamina so you can use it slightly longer.
It’s probably could be pretty good with weapon specialist modifier that let you regen some stamina on melee swap and give stamina reduction buff though, but I haven’t test it yet.
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