Changes to Havoc - Derank - Comms


I get what you’re saying but this sounds like loaded messaging since looking at the graph…


There are only two noticeable spikes in player activity in which the crafting rework came second and was more of a speed bump as opposed to the actual peak that came with the class rework.


You’re also missing context that PS players and Xbox players are added to the player count which created more community for people to play with. Attributing it only to a weapon fix is a little bit narrow of a view, I think.

Even with that, Many Auric Maelstroms I launch with an empty lobby after the timeout expires. And when I choose to PUG for Havocs, I only find 1-3 rooms during the day active at any given time.

A comparable spike by a few decimals is the Grim Protocol release which yielded an even higher player count building off of what Locked and Loaded brought.

nobody i know would be playing this game without crafting being unshittified, including myself

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Plenty of people were.

plenty of people are into coprophagy (i didnt pick this example randomly, there is overlap with people who enjoyed the original crafting system)

I suppose you’re right, and there are also people who will be given everything to them on a silver spoon after all the crying and screaming they’ve done and will never be happy even though they’re allegedly an adult.

lol gambling is such hard work you’re right

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Right, like just being able to pick whatever you want, right? :wink: So hard.

when’d i ever say it’s hard? why should getting to use the weapon you want to use be hard? try to keep up

Sorry, it is a little hard to keep up since you were making an appeal in favor of challenge that “gambling” wasn’t difficult.

You’re right, gambling in itself isn’t difficult. Push button, get randomized stuff. That’s not the hard part. It’s working with what you have that is the difficult part.

Now? You just roll the weapon until you get the stats you want, then pick all the perks and blessings you want, leaving you no room to make any important choices about the weapon itself.

You’re a paragon of skill now that you can chase the META. How could I argue with such logic?

why do you type like that lmao

Like what, exactly?

what’s with this whole garbage you’re throwing my way about how i want to have everything for free and how i want to chase meta and prove my skill? what are you even on about? are you right in the head

You’re upset about being misrepresented, fair enough. You’re dodging the actual critique. You said you support a system where players can pick their exact perks and blessings. That does removes constraint, which reduces the need for adaptation and decision-making. It’s not a personal attack to point that out. But when I mirror back what your position implies (not verbatim, but logically) you throw insults instead of rebuttals. That’s not debate. That’s a tantrum.

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reporting my post as spam doesn’t mean you didn’t put words into my mouth. so you can dish out random insults but can’t take them huh?

“Quote me!” you said gambling bad, full control good. What’s that if not hand-picking stats? . And now you’re accusing me of reporting you for spam… That wasn’t me, are you okay? You’re speedrunning victimhood now

and I said quote me because i never said it lol. keep being dishonest man. do you always try to rile people up by lying about what they said?

You’re right, you never said it. You just described it, defended it, and got mad when someone noticed. Smooth.

quote me where i “described” it then

are oyu really trying to tell me you know what i think right now? after i told you you’re wrong? something is NOT right with you man

Again, you mocked randomness, praised full agency, and scoffed at the idea of effort. That’s not telepathy … that’s inference. If you can’t recognize your own subtext, that’s on you, not me. Since I was off, perhaps you could share what your position is, or is this just (again) another clumsy deflection to detract from the points that I made in which you’ve failed to reply?

never at any point did I do that. are you just going to repeat a lie?