It’s a lot more than 50 people, dude lol.
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And damn-near every person you ask about it in-game.
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Peepa wanted dedicated servers, we got them with the shbang.
Dude, in literally every thread you post, you are the apologist for so many dumb design decisions it is honestly baffeling.
Do you get payed?
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Well you sure do sound like a bad player the way you react so emotionally to what you’re describing.
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Show us on the doll where the evil elitist vermintide player touched you.
Good players don’t need a scoreboard to know that you are performing poorly. Most of them will know fairly fast once the game has started.
It’s insase how self centered you people can be. If you are so convinced that people are waiting for the scoreboard at the end to hound you then just press space 3 times fast (which you probably do already anyway). Problem solved.
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Dumb designs for you and others so addicted to get everything as fast as possible and “bling bling” on top. I guess you even can´t have fun without getting rewarded in games anymore. “I´ve spammed LMB, rewards pleaseeeee!!!”
And i´m 100% sure i´m a way better player than the most here doing nothing else but sitting on broken weapons and breakpoints, on top want everything to be like a powersword and ask for even more self-sustain. when the game is already easier than V2. x)
a) Nobody have said it´s a permanent things or always present, but it happens and brings nothing but the same worthless toxicity like KD in PvP games or a damage-meter in MMORPG´s. It´s also a false indicator which let poeple, who´re actually bad, thinking they´re good players based on some dumb green circles.
b) Good players DON´T even need a scoreboard to know they´re good. You get the irony?
good players will beat damnation without an issue. its easy. i beat all the damnation levels and got the frame 3 days after launch. the real issue for good players is having a reason to keep playing. beating a level is not enough to keep playing when you already beat them all. what people need is a great post action report showing them all those sexy numbers they earned. why min max gear when the game is already easy enough without it? BECAUSE SEXY NUMBERS! the scoreboard is what keeps people coming back again and again when there is nothing else to play for. people keep saying the scoreboard doesnt show important stats that go toward beating the map but what if beating the map is not the problem. the real problem is getting us to come back and beat them again and again and without a scoreboard people will drop this game until it dies.
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*fixed various scoreboard related crashes
*fixed crash that could occur when looking at the scoreboard for longer than 7.169 seconds while raising an eyebrow
*reverted the scoreboard to previous version as a temporary fix to prevent Error 9001
*tweaked the circle color VFX to make them feel more impactful
*added snowflake option to only show team average values including circles on every stat
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Apart from everyone else, because astounding as it might seem to you there are bad players that want a scoreboard, one of the reasons good players want a scoreboard is because they want to know HOW good they are on any given moment with any given setup on any given map.
You haven’t made a single valid argument as to why people shouldn’t have access to scoreboards. It’s either stuff like “No of specials killed doesnt mean anything because spawns differ” to which the responce is well duh … then just give both numbers or in percentage format. Or psychological mumbo jumbo like … scoreboards will make players go for kills and make them bad. To which the answer is anything that makes my teamates want to insta kill the sniper - trapper - bomber in the background or mow down every damn regular shooter in the vicinity is a GOOD THING.
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It’s not about keeping score, it’s about knowing whether you were effective in your chosen role. I want all the stats. Team-wide and personal.
DMG to elites ranged/melee
DMG to specials ranged/melee
DMG to poxwalkers ranged/melee
Etc.
Bleed Dmg
Corruption Dmg taken
DMG blocked
DMG reduced by traits/feats/perks
Saves
Weak point hits
Weak point kills
Monster damage
Grenades used
Grenade kills
Etc. Etc. Etc.
Over enough games you’ll start to notice if your build works the way it’s supposed to.
Class specific stats like Brain Burst count or warp charge time should be included as well.
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I agree. Me being optimistic about this game i thought it was gonna have a scoreboard even better then vermintide because improvment on a devs next game is naturally what we should expect right?
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Again, since a bunch of stuff is RNG and relies on the group performance, you´ll never really know how good you´re at the moment.
So please don´t claim i haven´t made a valid argument, when you´ve none aswell.
It doesn´t make them bad, it can and will reduce coop at some point. Maybe it doesn´t effect you, but there are poeple definately hunting for green circles, starting to rush more and jump into a horde others can clear easily to “killsteal” instead of saving the back from that special.
Also FS already stated that they want to bring some more coop and support orientated scoreboards. Nothing against only personal ones anyway, those should cater poeple like you meanwhile preventing from toxicity.
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That doesn’t make sense. Anyone going for scoreboard performance will be going for specials too…because that’s also a stat.
Compeltely false… rng affects the readings from 1 or 2 scoreboards… across multiple rng factor is minimal. You have never obviously dealt with stats or statistics of any sort.
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after you seen countless number of scoreboards and compare them with what was present in the game and how game gose. you can start to see some patterns, regardless of rng.
i can tell you average dps for dd class in cata, i can tell you who is good by numbers (not always tho), because i played long enaugh to know the patterns for diffrent classes, builds, maps etc.
and you don’t really always need those patterns. if you killed more specials then your whole team as ranger vet, you are good! you did your job. if you did that as a footknight, you are amazing.
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Of course if you get enough statistics you can make some statements to the average etc… Said it already to some above, but would you sit there and making those sheets? The most players won´t, they just run for their green circles in the worst case.
And well, you´re able to slightly manipulate them by rushing. This will for sure last in more kills and damage than your team does. In kind of DT you could even just stay back all day and you´ll probably have the most specials, since half of them spawn behind you and suddenly the “footknight” becomes amazing.
It´s up to you, but i highly doubt anyone needs some datasheet with 1000 runs to know if he got better or not. The game does a pretty good job telling you that you either got better, or that you suddenly run broken stuff.
(And again, the scoreboard in V2 is still buggy especially on clients.)
Yeah rushing in Heresy and Damnation, try it gonna work real well. So is sitting in the back when all that is needed is 1 poorly timed push block for a pox hound to end you.
You have poor understanding of the game, you have poor understanding of statistics, but what you lack completely is understanding of what the majority wants and why it wants it.
The only reason you claim you don’t want a scoreboard is because of how it will magically affect everyone else, on how they play, how they treat others. You really have to be a special kind of recluse, isolated from society, to have such poor understanding of what drives people to do these things you claim … i 'll give you a spoiler though… it ain’t scoreboards.
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Yes it works really well, especially forcing enemies into melee makes the most things easier for those who got used to it. Also “rushing” as a group is the easiest way to finish a missions since less time needed = less spawns. You just need to know when to rush and when you should beat the horde first to prevent from e.g. boss-spawns.
And there it is again “the majority”. Even the majority in V2 dropped the game pretty fast for different reasons like “No progress, no endgame, rinse and repeat or even it´s too difficulty.”.
The game-series isn´t even made for the majority, it´s just some entitled forum users believing they´re the majority and knowing everything better than the devs obviously.
Not gonna say something to the other nonsense. So much like “valid arguments”, if you can do nothing else but going personal and trying to devalue others statements with it.
I´ve said from beginning “nothing against personal scoreboards”, but it´s not needed to show them from everyone if they don´t want to. But i guess, you´ve been so obsessed going personal instead of reading what is written down.
This is remarkable.
First you claim that scoreboards will make individuals rush ahead to get the kills obviously referring to this as a bad thing.
When you are confronted with the reality that rushing ahead alone is a death sentence in Heresy or Damnation you decide to do what exactly? You double down claiming it’s a valid tactic. You are so obsessed with saying anything other than agreeing to being wrong that you throw your own original argument under the bus. So rushing is good now… therefore scoreboards which will make people rush are good.
Leave the scoreboard discussion amigo. Go play the game you have a long way to go.
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