Brutal Momentum on axes is insanely op and needs a nerf (including suggested fix)

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@alsozara

I mean not with BM, and not in any particular way I can think of. Solid mobility, reasonably quick, good stagger power (further enhanced by power blessings). What weaknesses were you thinking of specifically defensively?

Blocking. The CA has no defense modifier.

@alsozara

Debatable. It stacks per enemy cleaved and definitely helps running Caxe with Zealot crit build. Outside that build I wouldn’t take shred, that much is true.

Was talking about CA, not TA. With CA, a critic template is not really efficient.

@alsozara

No decimator is dropped when you break your attack chain by either blocking, missing an enemy entirely, or not hitting anything for a short duration. Like shred it actually stacks per target cleaved, which is why it’s an optimal pairing with BM, usually two attacks into a horde and you’re max stacked for that juicy +50% power, and you’ll keep it as long as you keep mashing that M1. Even if you drop it it’s not a big deal since, again, 2-3 attacks into any number of enemies greater than 1 or 2 and you’ll be max stacks again.

It should… but it doesn’t…

Decimator bonus drop if we don’t hit the same enemy

Issue Description: When you use a melee weapon with decimator, if you hit several times the same enemy you get the bonus at the third hit. If you continue to hit it, the bonus will increase. But if, at one time, you hit an other enemy, the bonus vanishes. The description of this blessing is: “Continuously chaining more than 2 attacks gives +X% Power on Hit. Stacks 10 times.” So, the fact that we hit an other enemy should have no impact on the bonus. Bug was detected by using the mod that dis…

@alsozara

Agreed, devastating strike nerf was also just generally dumb. Again note that this topic is specifically about BM on axes, and since FS has shown that they can tweak blessings on a per weapon basis I see no reason to bring how BM performs on other weapons into the discussion.

If you says that a weapon is OP, you have to compare with others.
The author has opened the door when he said:

@CataTwitchOnly

There is absolutely no reason to use anything else if you could also pick an axe with a blessing that makes it ignore hitmass.

@alsozara

Power sword is a different conversation entirely, and there’s already enough back and forth on it in this thread primarily about axes. I think it’s perfectly reasonable to disagree with OP’s assessment that BM Caxe > Power Sword, while still considering the possibility that BM on Caxe is overtuned generally.

It is not when you compare them with an Antax with BM. Fact is:

• a PS can clean an horde faster than an Antax with BM and it can also kill crushers etc.
• an heavy sword can clean an horde faster than the Antax with BM
  I won’t do the list of all weapons…

The problem is not the Antax, the problem is how BM and other cleave blessings work, if there’s a problem.

@alsozara

Agreed, devastating strike nerf was also just generally dumb. Again note that this topic is specifically about BM on axes, and since FS has shown that they can tweak blessings on a per weapon basis I see no reason to bring how BM performs on other weapons into the discussion.

The point is that I would not see a nerf like what they did to devastating strike coming to BM. Cause, blessing by blessing, we have less and less blessings that work and that are useful.