Exactly my point. It’s better to nip problems in the bud, even with a simple objection and nothing more, rather than validating some of the tools that are to be found on any internet forum.
There are too many threads on this forum that are exactly what you describe.
I’m not sure why someone expressing their opinion on a game mechanic should be considered a problem to be nipped in the bud.
You don’t agree with their opinion, fine, but disagreeing without providing justification is a bit disrespectful - it’s not a debate to be won, it’s a discussion thread.
If threads are getting out of hand, report and/or mute as appropriate.
Imagine that your country implements a new law that dictates that you have to write an essay about who you’re voting for in an election and why. That’d get old really quick.
My point is that a simple objection isn’t counterproductive at all, it’s simply a blunt way to indicate to others that I’m on the opposing side of the argument without having to write a novel on why. As a member of the community, I should be allowed to have a say in the matters that directly affect my builds without having to spend hours of my life typing up my argument instead of doing more meaningful things.
I get you, kind of. But remember this is a forum centered around discussion, elements that are counterproductive to discussion aren’t desired here as seen in the forum guidelines.
You’re putting it like @Khorne_Dawg simply “kidnapped” another guy’s topic with constant disapproving messages.
It was one single post, with many likes (which is important, because it saved other’s time to show their disapproval as well), but it was removed putting the opinions of those who disapproved into a trash bin. You call that respectful?
Being blunt is to be direct, without trying to be polite. You think an idea is bad, so be it - at least have the courtesy to say why it’s bad.
Disagreeing without a reason is just being a bit of an arse. I’m trying to think of a scenario where responding to a suggestion (in a setting designed for making suggestions) with just “No” is considered a reasonable thing to do, but nothing is coming to me.
You don’t need an essay, you don’t need to follow up if you don’t want to.
Do you, or anyone else, honestly think people post one word replies with the intention of sparing the time of other forum users?
When people are making these “No” posts, is the benefit of other forum users at the forefront of their mind? Or did they just want to disagree, but couldn’t be bothered explaining why?
You can be blunt in telling someone their idea is utter crap (as opposed to sugar coating it) while also being courteous enough to say why it’s crap.
Disagreement without explanation is fine. Not every reply in a dialog needs to delve into detail.
Replying “No” is far more friendly than replying “I disagree with you because you’re a moron”
Do I have to include the moron part? No, probably not, but it’s part of the explanation.
Please note @Dumlefudge I’m not calling you a moron; I’m using that as an example for why I’d personally use a one-word reply instead of articulating a well-thought out response.
The OP on that thread has a history of bad takes that I’ve previously disagreed with in detail, and I just wasn’t up for another argument with them - but I still wanted to voice my opposition in some way.
For example, they said that Smite is unhealthy for the game as well by saying it’s “brainless”, and when I asked them why they thought that, they stated that “it’s brainless because it’s too good at teamwork” as if this isn’t a 4-player co-op game centred around teamwork.
That thread’s OP isn’t exactly the star candidate of your logic after pulling something like that.
Bluntness is often conflated with being rude, it’s not. It’s just to the point.
Generally speaking: when someone is being blunt their intention is to cut through the song and dance and get to what matters.
In this particular instance the “No” full-stop was achieving just that.
We get caught up in crafting a reply and citing details and examples and, honestly? Seeing how many times this has been done, it feels like they’re intentionally wasting people’s time. They do this because they know that on this forum people are generally courteous and put time and thought into their responses.
I’m not keen on seeing walls of text where a person types out methodical details and cites specific examples when at the end of their post the whole thing amounted to them typing “skill issue”. This is a throughline I’m noticing in many of our “nerf” posts lately. It’s folk who are genuinely very good at the game becoming bored with what’s on offer and instead of asking for MORE options for them specifically, they want to hammer things that function well for most people.
Should they? Like we gave an owe to explain every motive we got?
There’s no way to demand something from those who owe you nothing.
If the person doesn’t want to explain, you just deal with it, and might even ignore it, but not deleting that opinion (unless it really violates the rules, in which case nobody cares about the explanation anyway).
It doesn’t, it doesn’t convey anything. I only have to work with assumptions about what is meant, but no actual words. I don’t know if they disagree with the OP’s title, the premise, the ideas that inform the feedback suggestions, the suggested ideas themselves or just OP’s attitude.
If someone chooses to engage in a discussion, yes. It’s good form to do so, and bad form not to. I don’t need to link the guidelines again do I?
On the flip side, people will try to pass off rudeness as being blunt (to try and get away with being rude). Not suggesting that anyone here is trying to be rude, but they’re not mutually exclusive.
Discussing your opinion on a discussion forum, seems like a thing people might do. You don’t owe anyone an explanation.
Out of curiosity, if someone subsequently asked you to elaborate on your opinion, would you?