Assail needs to be cut down in half

For me, the charge time need to be reduced by 30%-50%. It should only be used as a quick burst of damage, then you let it recharge while using your other weapons.

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If you like something that is hard to use, why not use something else then?

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false dichotomy, try again

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Be my guest.
If you wanna eat her out as well, I won’t be against it either.

Yes, 30% regen off, or halve the total ammo Assail has, 10 is imo too much ammo that allows them to throw like there is no problem.

Or both, slower regen and less ammo. While replacing the regen talent, maybe more damage for aimed throws

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I’m making this post because I don’t even run 30% regen and I can still spam like crazy. That’s why I’m saying they should halve the amo.

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Uh, no? It has 5 effective dodges (the same as knife has). No mobility penalties. You can’t block with it, but you can’t do it with any ranged weapon/blitz.

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Yeah, I wouldn’t call 5 dodges low mobility lmao. Pair it with Duelling Sword and you can kite enemies super easily, also it doesn’t slow you down like when charging brain burst/staff or aiming a gun.

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It has slow move speed and extremely low dodge distance.
So uuuhhhhh, yes? Yes!

Til being faster than staffs and most guns still considered to be slow. On top of ease of use. I wonder what you’d call anything below that level? Turtle?

Can you please stop posting outright lies?
Having a Blitz equipped, you dodge and move slower than with most guns.

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Do you have any proof of that? Or is it another ā€œit just feels like itā€ kind of deal?

It depends on the guns and the mobility modifier you roll, they can enhance your dodge speed, distance, sprint. But not all guns provide mobility modifier. Generally having blitz equipped, the dodge range is shorter. And no, I don’t have proof, just according to experience.

However, with blitz equipped, it is easy enough to dodge normal melee attacks but can be a little bit challenging to dodge mutant in some situations.

@Flawless

I mean no disrespect, and in point of fact, I agree with you in principle, but I vaguely remember you being a strong proponent of nerfing the power sword months ago (a point with which I did not agree), so may I ask what changed here?

It just seems like such a hard left turn from prior discussions so I’m curious why the change of heart, if you don’t mind me asking?

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I’m confused here. How is power sword related to Assail? And also, I don’t remember what I said about power sword. Can you link?

nvm, you replied to another person LOL
It is my post so I always get notified. mb

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@RTO

More of a broad overview kind of question. I was asking @Flawless why he was keen on having power sword nerfed in the months previous, but assail shouldn’t receive similar revision.

My motivation for asking was basically just down to how a lot of the pro or con points both seemed similar to the ones made during the days of the power sword debate, so I was wondering why the turnaround?

And since I have no dog in this particular fight, I’m basically just curious what the difference maker is here, because I feel like I’m missing something.

Does that answer your question?

Do you have a link to anything showing/detailing this? It’s not something I’ve ever noticed on my Psyker, nor is it something I can find anything for searching online.

I think we should first see how the damage nerf it is about to take will affect assail and threshold damage.

As other have said and while I agree on the spell being frustrating to play with. there is no need to nerf something to the ground due to community outcry.

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@gab.rognon

I agree in principle, but that argument didn’t protect the flamer or power sword from a similar fate.

Let see,

Sprint speed is more the same as guns( Infantry Lasgun, Infantry Autogun), While staff is slower than most.

Dodge distance is farther than both guns and staff, ledge boost let you see more obvious result than normal dodge.

Dodge count is more on generous side at 5 dodges. Gun generally have 4-5 doges while some have lower like Brauto and Plasma have whooping 2 dodges.

And of course it doesn’t require precise aim and doesn’t slow you down when aiming or bracing, like I previously state.

but yeah, this is considered to be ā€˜slow’ and I’m totally lying, since I’m lying my opinion obviously is invalid too and so does my evidence. That’s how you seem to respond to anyone that doesn’t agree with you anyway.

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