Then ask fatshark to add the scoreboard officially. As i said before there is no possible way to do what you’re asking them to do without outright banning the whole thing. Which would make ALOT of people really really mad.
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@FatsharkStrawHat please can we get official integration of the scoreboard with option to block your own stats to others?
Also please can we get FS to do a serious integration review of current mods, especially QOL mods.
The code and presumably any necessary UI is literally built and ready to go if it exists in the functional mod. A bit of QA will be worth helping unify the community and improving the game for everyone.
If ps5 is coming then these integrations for console users seem even more important.
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Where would you like the line drawn?
Are you for “nothing shown”, or actually you’re happy with some medium point?
Does your avatar move through the game looking and acting as per the standard bot with “Dave” as your name?
Yes, this is an absurd end point, but I’m curious what information you think should and shouldn’t be known to team mates? e.g. the below
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As you load in I can see your player class already. That’s some of your information I can make a decision on. Maybe I don’t want to play with another Psyker.
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I can see your name. So if I’ve a good memory, that’s more information.
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I can see which weapons you have, and currently, what levels they’re at. That’s useful knowledge. Should I be able to see what loadout you have or whether you’ve levelled them? Or do we all just have to pick what we feel like and hope the squad have mixed and matched archetypes and playing roles?
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I can see which skins you’ve chosen to wear, or not. Plus any trinkets if you’ve given that info away. And also, if you’ve nothing but basic gear, then that also tells me something too. I might interpret that wrong, but that can happen on any bit of information.
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With mods I can extend that to what skills you’ve chosen. It’s only in advance, because as soon as the game starts I can find that out anyway. So - is it only me knowing in advance of starting a game you resent?
I can understand the OPs argument. It’s been used to abuse. I’m not sure I see yours yet, other than “my privacy” ?
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Yeah, see you come at me with that deranged nonsense and I’ll just extend my argument to say:
We should all have zero mods. Games easy enough as it is, why you need these crutches huh?
Otherwise. I want the information that the game shows, to be the information you have. My argument has always been the same as the OP.
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I gotta find my earlier post on this topic, but the ideal compromise here is to have an official scoreboard that shows your stats, the team TOTALS for each stat, and then your rank (1st, 2nd, 3rd place etc) for each.
You need to see the team total in order to have something to normalize your own stats against. If you killed 300 pox walkers that’s a lot on malice but merely average damnation. Providing the team totals gives you a reference point.
And then your ranking within the total can be calculated so you know if you performed the best, the worst, etc. within each category.
Of course I have no issue with seeing everyone stats and often find it illuminating to see how others did. If I see a higher performer I’ll often look them up in the social menu and check out their build if I can.
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Here it is:
Thinking I might make a full post on this.
Here’s a mockup of what I had in mind. Anyway, basic idea is that you have the global team total, your individual stats, and then your ranking.
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I agree with you that this isn’t really a problem, literally NOBODY even once have said anything in that regard, well, in my experience.
Actually 
, there is a way to do what he is asking, the easiest way I can think of, is - with a click of the button all of your experience beyond level 30 will be deleted from the database and limited to that amount.
Or, just not storing any more experience beyond level 30 altogether, which would sucks, it’s basicly like banning the mod forever.
Please do not do what I suggested, it’s horrible, just let things stay as is
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I can’t help but wonder what is OP’s (and other posters complaining about same thing) server/region that have enough scoreboard toxicity it warrants a forum post, because at least on EU i’ve never witnessed any “stat shaming” ever, and I usually play with at least 2 pubs. I’ve seen trolls, complaints about non-meta weapon marks and blessings (both can be checked in vanilla btw), players being angry at teammates’ pace, but never ever had I experienced someone saying to me or other players anything like “your damage sucks git gud”. 99% of games it’s just “gg” during ending cutscene, regardless of how teammates performed.
Anyways, most of the things about scoreboard already been said, I’m in a pro-scoreboard camp, it’s the best tool for self-improvement and while you can get better by comparing your own stats between runs, having other people as a benchmark will always be an important part of improving at anything.
I assume scoreboard mod just parses combat data so implementing an option to hide it is either impossible or just not feasible. On top of that, it might actually make things worse for you: same players that are being toxic about scoreboard numbers will just switch their attention to anyone who hides their stats.
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When ever i see people claiming that mods are an issue in Darktide, because they promote toxicity, i wonder a few things:
- Why have i never encountered this issue after playing more than 2000 missions?
- Is it exclusive to a specific region, or to low difficulties?
- Is the complainer an insufferable and toxic person, who annoys other players until they respond in a toxic way (and then blames that response on some mod)?
- Is the person just a dirty liar with an agenda?
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maybe it is also thanks of the modding policy, where if people are actually toxic because of the usage of mods, they can be banned. due to the violation of the policy. so people don’t bother in being toxic in chat because of mods.
Maybe you’re too good at the game and only people who get “low stats” receive harsh criticism.
I have never seen anyone else getting that kind of criticism either.
Although it could be possible that it only happens after struggle runs.
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I haven’t encountered it either. People dishing it out or receiving it. Friends and Pubs.
I have seen people trash talk during a match about something, running too far ahead, going down too much, grabbing too much ammo, etc. infrequent. But I haven’t seen it at the end when the score board gets shown. Not once.
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im used to trashtalking pubs that queue where they dont belong but i dont really need a scoreboard to give flak to someone who’s in spectator mode 24/7
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i found only 2 persons on my block list (and iirc those didn’t talk, but sabotaged the game).
seriously, some need to learn the art of ignoring people.
Seeing high true level players being absolutely useless never gets old tho.
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By just leaving it a mod and the situation as is, it effectively is already an optional feature. Though one not available to console players certainly.
The scoreboard was perhaps the most hotly contested topic both before the launch and after. I recall it had a long-running thread that lasted well over a year. I think FS felt the whole thing was fairly radioactive (bizarrely IMO, given the presence of scoreboards in so many co-ops, VT1/2, DRG, GTFO, AFTE, L4D2, etc.) and that doing nothing was the best thing that could be done.
I don’t reckon DRG having a detailed scoreboard, it was just very generic one.
like total kills, total materials mined, how many times you ressed someone and how many times you went down
just a simple scoreboard that has not real meaning 
considering the whole teamwork is the real result instead of individual stats.
…True Level and Scoreboard only affect your gameplay if the opposite side if being Toxic about it. In which case…Leave? Neither of these mods in any way affect you.
Also, You’re online. Your privacy is at an all time—NOTHING. Hasn’t been in years.
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This is propaganda perpetuated by the people who make money out of your data and parroted by the people who believe it. You have far more control over where your data goes than you think you do.
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