a very big one indeed, instead of some forced upon sale of lifetime for money that is a job and few can avoid in order to afford the stuff one enjoys, my spare time, the “real life”, is sacred in regards to the way I spend it.
so you could say gaming or hobbies in general are infinitely more worth/important or a measure of one’s “success” cause its the only free choice as to where invest his real ambition into.
well in your case it’s “cooking the books” to fraud up more numbers and rightfully has you in jail upon detection, so
well machine gun macro psyker are very detectable in that regard, just saying.
I genuinely thought you were being intentionally obtuse with those comparison. Now you’ve expanded further I can see you’re being sincere, so I will keep my tone in check.
I don’t really accept the comparison as valid in the first place for reasons I’ve more or less already given, but I’ll expand further here best I can.
Firstly as already stated one involves an active choice, the other is often being a victim of circumstance. Furthermore I would have to evaluate that on a case by case basis, there are really too many variables here to give a reasonable generalist answer. If somebody is suffering a rig that gives them 20 fps but are playing to the best of their ability, I feel sorry for them. If someone downloads a wall hacks mod that is just annoying, my metric for what an enjoyable game is goes beyond player performance, this ties into my next points further down.
I’m not sure I’ve personally stated that my complaint stems from people performing above their level due to mods. I’ve also said I like a lot of mods and would prefer they aren’t all nuked because of some dodgy ones. I just think it is imperative something is done about the dodgy mods lest the situation escalates to a point where that is what happens.
In any online game where interaction with other players is more or less forced, you are entering into a sort of social contact as with more or less any other type of community. A pretty key part of that social contract is that there is some semblance of everyone playing by the same rules. In my experience when these social contacts break down it has a not always predictable, but pretty inevitable negative flow on effect to the social aspect of that game. Is my team mate a veteran with extreme game knowledge that simply knows where the boss/whatever else triggers are on the map, or is that information just being handed to them? Do they have an awesome reaction time or could they see that Rager pack coming around the corner through the damn map? Are they a melee god or do they have a mod to macro some sort of weapon swap abuse? It really changes the tone of those interaction and degrades my feeling of comradery and trust in my team mates.
Of course realistically it is NOT an even playing field for a variety of reasons, but I do think trying to hold at least some standard here is pretty essential to the experience. If there was an actual solo mode in this game and mods were open slather for that mode only I’d see no issue. In a solo experience I strongly believe it is the player’s prerogative to modify the game however they feel benefits them. That’s not what we’re dealing with here though.
Now of course Fatshark’s own design decisions have clearly kneecapped the quality of the social experience, so let’s just agree that’s the case and not delve into a long tangent on that. I’m just not a “two wrongs make a right” kind of person.
So in light of my previous comments, I disagree with your reward/cost evaluation. I think part of the cost is the degradation of trust in other players and the experience as a whole. I agree it’s not an easily measurable cost, but I don’t think that makes it invalid to consider.
I will wrap up this rambling behemoth of a post by circling back to the fact that I do like mods and use a decent number myself. I like that the community can fill in QoL gaps that Fatshark historically are unlikely to ever implement themselves. I however also can’t abide a number of mods that have popped up and would like them aggressively dealt with for the sake of the innocuous or unambiguously positive ones. These threads pop up so often for a reason. There is a tangible and entirely reasonable hatred for mods like the one this thread started over. I believe without some action taken this sentiment will fester and grow to a point it endangers the use of all mods.
You’re wasting your breath, that’s a tired old excuse that nobody has dared to use until now, because it’s silly. He needs to keep digging through that bag of excuses, he’s clawing through the bottom of it.
Not only is it not dodged, it doesn’t deserve to be “answered” because the very question is asinine.
Mein God, still hung up on “how do you know” but he totally didn’t say “it’s not a cheat if you don’t know about”.
It doesn’t karkin’ matter if you know or not, a tree falling down in the forest still makes noise if nobody is around to hear it. Someone cheating you is still cheating if you haven’t picked up on it (yet). JTFC.
Uh…wut? What kind of quantum BS is this? A black cat is still black when the lights are off or when you turn your head.
I played a Havoc match with a player who kept “chain” marking every single enemy in front of us though the walls, and also stimms/med/ammo boxes in closed crates. Pretty sure he was using a cheat mod.
By the way when he died, I typed “at least you have stopped pinging”, he started griefing by just pinging the enemies without attacking them after the rescue. But thanks to how absolutely braindead this playerbase is, vote kick didn’t pass and we were wiped out.
in our case here though it’d rather be a dude too poor to afford even shoes so he’s doing drugs instead to numb the pain and boost the results.
how much a hobby is worth to someone isnt the key argument here, some are naturally out of the affordable range for some people.
heck I’d love to blow up ballistic gel dummies on a private parkour john wick style 2x a day.
wallet (and crappy gun laws here ) says otherwise.
is competitive shooting a bad hobby then?
of course not, I just dont have access to it through personal means.
so buying a proper rig, while necessary to get the game running at a satisfactory performance, isn’t for everybody as well
should that mean they use wallhacks to hit despite crappy fps?
they can install low res textures and stuff that disables lighting for all I care to get their rust bucket do the next mile but anything that competes with actual physical contribution of your peers is a no no.
I disagree on this one. You still need the breathing room to do the interaction and wait. And often another player does it and you still have to watch their back. The impact of Auspex “puzzles” is time, not clicking a button.
After hundreds of hours, I really don’t find the idea of solving an Auspex game manually interesting. Same reason I use hub hotkey mod. I am not interested in running to the crafting station or mission map.
That’s not true. If no one is around to hear it, the “sound” is just waves in the air and with no eardrums to pass that signal into the brain, there’s no experience of sound to be had by anyone.
The soundwaves still exist though. You just don’t have a device within range to detect it. You could put a recording device there and it would capture the sound
) says otherwise.
