Its what I like doing with my freetime, I’m off season with work for the Winter so yeah, I play a lot of games and do the stuff I enjoy doing. Its pretty sweet not gonna lie. Do you just not play the game but post on the forum or something?
I’d say that 155 hours for a 20$ game is pretty good, but you’re also right. While it’s important that the game has RPG/MMO level of progression, the gameplay itself should be more about playing around interactive abilities. Currently most elite encounters are you killing them instantly by ranged damage or getting attacked by them before you can even point and click them (or at all when gatling gunners shoot through walls). The most interactive elites are the chaos warriors as you actually need to skillfully dance around them (unless somebody points and clicks F on them) which is pretty absurd considering how much design space there is.
Public Transporation, Stellaris, 7 days to Die, Netflix, Anime, Youtube, Music, Discord just chatting up friends, listening to podcasts, etc. I do a bunch of stuff that has downtime. Waiting for food and friends too, I don’t post when drunk though, that’s a rule. When we do our weekend shenans phone stays off limits for posting/texting unless necessary.
I’ve put in 110 hours on Vermintide since pre-launch beta started, work 40 hours a week with a few hours overtime, volunteer QA test a small project in my time off from my QA job (irony), and still do other things :). My full time job and my Vermintide time together is only a couple more hours than you’ve spent on Vermintide alone and I’m still putting in over 25 hours a week, which is actually pretty heavy considering all the other stuff I do. My sleep has suffered a bit multi-tasking so much. But if I couldn’t handle that I woudn’t be suited for the game industry lol. Not being in crunch is nice :).
Alright, so how are we any different in our scheduling? You’ve got a little under half my playtime, and I’m currently off work. Are you also an addict? You can see how that comment rubbed me the wrong way right?
sometimes if you get to a point where it seems like you aren’t getting many increases in gear level, try crafting some stuff to get a jump.
also it helps if you save commendation chests until you start getting level 200 items. Since the commendation chests go to 300, you can save em and open those up at 200, craft a bunch of stuff, then go into champion getting lvl 250 + gear. Once you get 300 on one character you can get the same for others right away.
Yes. I am addicted to video games. They are what I like, they are my primary hobby, they are my work passion, but they are also an addiction/compulsion. It’s a fine line to walk since it’s also my profession. It’s one of the reasons I do so many other things :). Because I understand that I need to. Sometimes I even brave the sun and do outside things gasp. This is why it took me 30 minutes to reply, I do other things 
. I just finished Devilman Crybaby, which is actually a good anime surprisingly. Adult but good.
You can see how that comment rubbed me the wrong way right?You can see how that comment rubbed me the wrong way right?
Denial is like that.
Alright, thanks for being condescending. Guess I’ll just go wallow in my hole that I never leave where I inject dewritos into my gullet.
Take it as you will. Either way I hope you and your life improves. You can have the last jab, burying this dead horse.
Actually it does for me.
so your saying you spent over 100 hours doing something you didn’t enjoy and did not get paid to do , that you have done this multiple times and you think its normal enough to assume others do it to?
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I was under the impression that crafted gear doesn’t count for increasing your gear power limit. And I did exactly that with my commendation chests. I went from 200 to 268 in one go.
You see kid, not all games have the same mold which ofc is something your silly general all size fits all metric doesn’t take into account. For example, allot of those game’s I referenced were mmos from having played them from beta and beyond and like a fool you jump the gun in taking the bait. congrats!
Also, your premise is completely flawed in assuming there to be some silver bullet metric for ALL GAMES and all players in what constitutes “normal enough,” w/e the hell that could even be… 
no , i took the specific game we were discussing this one and talked about that. what metric? the one you introduced ?
and just how exactly does these other games being other genres make the idea of spending hundreds of hours you neither enjoyed nor got paid for a better idea? exactly what gun did i jump the assumptions have so far all been yours not mine.
Dark nexus was the only game you actually referenced which according to wiki is a "Dark Nexus Arena is a cancelled multiplayer online battle arena, twin-stick shooter video game "
so that was over 100 hundred hours well spent . good job!
and now i’m beginning to think one of us might not know what metric means and has difficulty reading , you might want another go at that one. i offered no metric for what constitutes normal enough , i said
which is a question , not a metric and one i assumed was rhetorical as if you didnt you wouldn’t deliberately post something that made you look stupid.
Lol bless you!
I certainly agree with this one, the initial impression of the game was very good, but this dumb progression became more and more apparent as I kept playing. Even finding an average item used to be something cool because it had some properties that would change how you play a bit, this time it’s as unexciting as item drops in world of warcraft.
Hmmm. While I see where you’re coming from and don’t completely disagree despite it not bothering me, not sure if World of Warcraft is the best example here considering how…addicted that game has kept millions of people for over a decade of time. I’m personally not fond of it, but I can’t dismiss it either. I don’t believe it’s continued success is an accident.
I told all my friends who thought about buying this game that, don’t buy it if you only want to grind loot.
Buy it for the challenge the game gives you.
I will stop playing this game as soon as i won every level on every difficulty with all tomes and grims.
Doesn’t mather if i have all red items or not.
And i will play it again as soon as the first DLC appears or some mods give new content.
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I get that not everyone wants a super hard survival experience with an emphasis on strong fundamentals, but myself and a lot of people like me probably bought the game after playing Vermintide 1 and expected a similar experience. Once the bugs are gone I don’t think V2 will be a bad game. But it won’t be a continuation of the gameplay from V1 either.
you don’t consider vermintide 2 a similar experience to vermintide 1?
oh my. the standards these days are nigh high.
I like this game, but I do agree with all of your points. Except maybe the bot one. I never end up playing with bots for more than a couple minutes so I don’t really notice/care how good they are.
I now have 224 hours playtime!
I love this game and there are a lot of things I like in this game
so I will only focus on the things I dislike:
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Chaos Pat spawning in your face
(this is not cool) -
Sienna players doing constantly FF
(Beamstaff everything everywhere all the time, ugh) -
Kerillian Waystalker Ultimate almost a requirement for anti specials with randoms
(special in a horde or specials like windstormers out of range best way to solve is ult) -
Bots being useless
(sometimes I would like to play alone but these bots…) -
No Dedicated Servers
(some people think if they host they own you plus the ping problems) -
The crosshair is not consistent with the spread on guns
(I use mouse-sensitivity.com to get almost 100% same sensitivity on all my shooters and it works fine for all of them except V2) -
No level requirement for difficulties
(oh look lvl 1 on champion… hop on the back buddy) -
Enemies standing inside you
(never penetrated someones special bubble)
and some of the things most people dislike but I like:
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The rarity on the reds is fine but could be just a tiny bit higher
(Only skill plus time investment should give people reds) -
The grind is fine
(If I would have everything or almost everything red with 224 hours It would be pretty boring.)
In the end I like to try out builds and different play style in this game to see
what works for me and what not or just simply to try out something new
so that I don’t get bored. People should just play the game when they like to play it
and do not care about the loot, I don’t. The loot is the cherry on top of the cake!
You’ve got legitimate points, but I’ll echo what a lot of folks here have said: “The only grind is the grind you bring.”
I play this game for the gameplay, environment/vibe, fun with friends, and that ever-satisfying feeling of hacking rats and chaos to bits. If you’re in it for appropriate rewards for amount of grind, probably better to find a different game. In the end, you’re gonna see what you want to see in it.
On another note, 155 hours?! Jeebus Crust, and I thought I was playing a lot…