If you know what you’re doing you can take major advantage of holy revenant (Heal during passive death defy). Many matches on my zealot I can pretty much ignore medicae unless we have excess charges. (Which we generally do)
It’s absurdly powerful and pretty much the opposite of unreliable, unless you just ignore that you’re running it. As long as you regenerate at least 40+ health or so you should be good to go until your next passive proc. If you’re not, you’re probably taking too much damage in general.
Lol how is that a weakness? You should rarely be sprinting rather than sliding on ANY character. You’re just nuking your stamina for no reason and I seriously question your gameplay if you’re even semi regularly being hit while sprinting.
Melee mobs spawn behind everyone, Vet has double the base toughness, 50% better melee kill toughness generation, and the most stupid good toughness regen feats in the game. Oh also 75% less damage taken during Ult (which he can keep up for absurdly long durations) from all sources.
There is simply no rational angle you can approach from to credibly argue Vet isn’t very overtuned. They have insanely good survivability, extremely good DPS, excellent feats and utility.
It’s extremely clear from your posts you’ve spent little time playing the other classes. Zealot only competes with or maybe, maybe beats Vet’s survivability with specific weapons with the crit build (which is in itself pretty disgustingly overtuned).
This really seals your cluelessness for me. Ah yes those “useless” melee weapons I comfortably run on Psyker (eg chainsword) who even you can’t possibly argue has better melee or survivability capabilities than Vet. You are so out of touch with where everything else in the game is.
Vet doesn’t have a single note worthy weakness, and has incredible strengths. It’s incredibly silly and I’m yet to see someone who plays Heresy+ with all classes attempt to argue otherwise. My god if you think survivability is any kind of issue on Vet you must go down to a stiff breeze as Psyker or non crit Zealot.
i played a lot with my zealot, you can clear hordes easily with a Flamer and an Evisverator and even a Hammer is not so bad many people think it is, especially when we talk about a mixed horde.
And Flamer is the best Horde clear Weapon in the game imho. It outshines Purgatus Staff and even Trauma Staff.
Trauma is maybe goot after last patch and does quells less to clear Hordes, but on Heresy and Damnation i cannot imagine you have the power like a Flamer with reload Perks and Blessings to just purge the heretics that efficient.
TBF crusher controls hordes much more than it clears them. Strong agree with the rest though. A good heavy sword is legit contender for fastest melee horde clear in the game (while still 2-3 shotting vast majority of specials and elites on Damnation).
I’ll let the weird comment they made that Zealot’s role is primarily horde clear go for now. Saying they have no good melee weapons for horde clear is just hilariously wrong regardless.
As much as I love Power Maul and Crusher, ALL power and chain weapons should have some sort of limit of how quickly you can use the special attack again. At least the Force Sword has the Peril/overheat mechanic. Power sword is just plain silly, and removes so much from melee combat. Ironically without the special attack, its a terrible weapon, especially its light attacks.
Monthes i try to educate ppls explaining that playing X weapon with X build with X gamplay and X teamplay will make X weapon totally OP
I wasted my time and today we continue to read same s-it right here … it’s so, sad, need pro tester team not stupid feedbacks.
Mk 3 falls into the category of weapons that excel (crazily) in some areas with actual weaknesses though. Your horde control goes kaput when you have to deal with a Mutant, and you can’t kill Crushers with it, which uses up more of his precious grenades. It also has none of the heavy boss damage the clubs and shovels do.
Ogryn really doesn’t have any over performing weapons, probably because his kit is so small its balanced better. Most things could use buffs there, if anything. Like my beloved ripperguns and the other 2 knives 1 of which is terrible. Or the shield which makes me rev up for a horrible game whenever I see one in QP.
