Cybermastif should get a dueling sword attachment
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Do not worry about that.
This is common in game industry. The new class will be very strong⌠or you would not buy the DLC.
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I donât know, maybe the better solution is to fix DS as they are so stupidly overpowered and literally making a joke of every weapon in the game.
Itâs like fatshark have never heard of the words play testing, balanced, responsivenessâŚ
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true. so in order to be strong, arbites would either have access to the DS, or have his own special weapons at the level of the DS. neither option is great.
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Yeah but surely they learned from VT2âs DLC careersâŚah nm.
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I hope not. The Arbites does not need a cheesy weapon to deal out justice.
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If Fatshark overnerfs DS and doesnât buff other weapons, mark my words, Ogryns will dominate Havoc and the game more generally. Theyâre already overrepresented in Havoc as is, and especially overrepresented among newer/lower skill players.
Double digit heavy attacks to kill a Crusher is just not acceptable in the current state of the game. Coming to a dead stop on every single elite is actually not fun, and the playerbase will plumet into oblivion if Fatshark takes that approach. And having way fewer elites with identical movesets and attack speed to what they have now is also very boring now that weâve been conditioned to be fighting them constantly.
Dueling Sword needs to be toned down, and other weapons need to be brought up. Knee jerk nerfing and buffing is not what this game needs.
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Dueling Sword deserves a nerf so bad that it may as well no longer exist in the game once that nerf hits. The knife too, to a lesser extent.
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And thatâs exactly a kinda vengeful view that doesnât lead to anything productive, just to another weapon no one will use.
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No other weapon in this game lets people kite indefinitely, theyâre both poison to the game design.
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Yes, and such problems can be addressed with more sensible settings, not by nerfing weapons into the ground because they have had their place in the sun. Ideally weâd have 100 good weapons to choose from, not 10 outliers and 90 meh.
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You arenât wrong, seeing an Ogryn delete a block of crushers and bulwarks with a Rumbler shot or two gives me more of a sense of âwow that is over poweredâ than the Dueling Sword. At least with the Dueling Sword the block manages to reach us and I get a few hits in, with the Rumbler I just watch them melt before they even get closeâŚ
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Yea there is a common theme in favour. Anti-Armour, Single target damage and mobility as unarmored horde is more of a distraction to box you in for disablers. The imbalance comes that only small handful of melee weapons give that, so it funnels the choice.
All melee weapons are unarmored horde effective, some better but for armour the TTK is so vastly different. So if all melee âroughlyâ good as another for horde anyway, might as well look towards anti-armour.
They need to look at the armour TTK difference but take into account their mobility, attack rate and swing time risk.
i.e.
DS has mobility so more safety, fast heavy attack, but requires more pokes i.e. 6-7.
Heavy sword, slower swing, more risk, but requires less hits i.e 4.
Risk vs Reward
Something like that.
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For real. Boring, and mindless af only nerf I really care about.
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1 arbites dont use blade weapons
2 dueling sword is a massive crutch and the class wont suffer any bit from not having a broken weapon
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literally the most un fun weapon in the game.
who actually wants to light spam with a wet noodle then turn to dealing 5k damage with a heavy? it feels so awful to use idk why anyone would subject themselves to that aside from needing a boost in havoc(thats mainly where i used it)
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The dueling sword should be the weakest weapon in the game
i feel like it should instead just be on the same level as every other weapon.
Without changes to other weapons once DS nerfed. People will move to Cat 3 knife, more so for itâs even higher mobility. Then it will be another year of forum threads focusing on the Cat 3 knife after DS.
How long now is that knife heavy infinite stamina run been in place.
The assumption is people will learn Relic sword etc as excellent replacement. But theyâll go easy route of their own needs and survival first to bypass enemies at team detriment.
A reasonable example of balanced single target/anti-armour melee weapon is Rashad axe. Not too easy, but not too difficult against armour. Set that as anti-armour average.
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But most weapons arnât being used becaue the DS makes them pointless.
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