It seems ogryns had ruined the havoc gameplay. Those strong ogryns makes fatshark add more monsters in havoc game, that other classes can hardly anti those fking tides.
4 Likes
Havoc ruined the havoc gameplay.
40 Likes
29 Likes
Wait wait wait, you think ogryn is why there is so much bullcrap in havoc?
23 Likes
Why choose one when you can do both? lol
7 Likes
Ogryn is hands-down the most braindead class in this game for now. All other ‘meta weapons’ look like jokes next to it. Outside Havoc difficulty, an Ogryn just needs to left-click spam to delete everything on screen. Playing other classes after Ogryn feels like switching from tgm-mode Skyrim to Dark Souls. That’s exactly why those keyboard warriors screaming for nerfs DS and Plasma conveniently stay silent about it.
13 Likes
Nice strawman you got there, my buddy.
30 Likes
Its not ogryns fault that Havoc is like that, its just simply poorly designed and buggy mess.
9 Likes
No, all of you decided Plasma and Dueling Sword was the topic of the day and the rest have been following suit.
No one has been defending the state of Ogryn.
8 Likes
Are you winning every single havoc mission if Ogryn is trivialising it that much?
2 Likes
What? Ogyrn is deffo overtuned. Bully Club 3 is the DS of Ogyrns, Pickaxes are TH’s turned up to 40,000, and BLO Rumbler spam wrecks everything including the game itself.
7 Likes
Ogryn is now just inline with the others imo.
9 Likes
obviously, if u have played all class in havoc. u may not say these.
1 Like
It took them years to make ogryn viable and now you want to nerf them? ogryn is not OP. i actively avoid ogryns for my havoc 40s all the ogryns i get suck.
The light spam is the only overtuned thing about them and most ogryns want to use the shield which does fuk all damage
4 Likes
So you win every single mission that has an Ogryn on the team? You don’t see any ogryns get downed?
1 Like
It has nothing to do with dueling sword/plasma being broken for almost 2 years while the ogryn has been overtuned in numbers for 2 months.
6 Likes
For me, the pre-rework Ogryn wasn’t ridiculously strong, but it wasn’t weak either. That said, I do understand why average players found the class hard to use and considered it weak, the required playstyle and overall handling were definitely on the more technical side. So I was fully in favor of the buffs, and I thought having more people use the class would lead to greater diversity in playstyles.
If we assume the pre-rework Ogryn’s class strength was a 3, and that a 10 represents top-tier strength without being overpowered, then ideally the rework should have brought it up to somewhere between 8 and 10. But for some reason, they cranked it all the way up to around 14.
9 Likes
People prefer to win in the most direct fashion, and ogryn being tuned for survival and not damage made him unpopular. Despite the devs claiming teams with them had the highest win rate, playing to outlast the enemy is not a popular strategy ever. This is also why people heap scorn at shield users in VT2 even though they make rounds laughably easy. They also make them take longer.
9 Likes
Ofcourse it is, good Ogryns are impossibly hard to find. Most are playing wspam pve dm arena and the mentality filters. More games would be won if Ogryns turned around and used their high cleave and stagger to clear the teams coherency but no, theyre up front dying with a pickaxe 24/7 or doing what I do and playing the ‘how much toughness can I regen’ minigame. Difference is I turn around and clear chaff off my team.
Knife Zealots were why there was so much bullcrap and leavers prior to Havoc, so knives were nerfed and a anti-quitter mechanic put in the game.
At least pre-update Ogryn was the same but required a brain. Now he doesnt (shrewd decision on FS part to get more in the game) hes too much of a Lynchpin. Builtin Rending, bleed and toughness regen is an anti-teamwork recipe.
Not least of which the class is batshit overpowered. Need the rending and bleed tuned down, he can keep the TDR and regen. The crux of the matter is what kind of game does FS want to make, and will they bow to the lobbyists who reviewbombed the game at launch to get their foot in.
LOL.I only know if my party’s other 3 class players have no DS and Plasma, we can lose ezly. But ogryn can use more kinds of weapons and builds with higher win rate.
1 Like