All in good fun… 
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Speaking of outdated metas, did lovers of ogryn with taunting + rumbler and right keystone died already or i shouldn’t play few more weeks?
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To be fair, it’s probably the only class in the game that actually takes skill at this point to play due to dodge linger having no effect
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Yeah, for sure. He makes some decent points here & there, but the entire video he’s commentating over, he’s playing incredibly sloppy, which is just sort of ironic. Not really a good look to be honest showing off the class to its potential. I don’t think he was really playing at full-compacity that game or maybe a fluke game, perhaps? Who knows, right. The way that he himself operates the class is very questionable from a playstyle perspective that is. The thing that bothers me with his content is he’s really all over the place with his opinions about balance. First, Hive Scum sucks & needs buffs. Vet got buffs that he wanted & now he wants nerfs, I mean… You cannot have it both ways, right. I mean, which is it? It’s like whatever way the wind is blowing, he changes his opinion on the fly like I change my underwear.
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So, my opinion of rumbler spam is it’s still cheesy as hell & it can work to be OP. I feel that Ogryn wasn’t really meant to be played like that though in the background, he’s more of a frontliner to me. If people do rumbler spam they set themselves up in very venerable positions to horde management, etc… Especially in Havoc where Oggy needs his melee power to take charge of that & control it. On lower difficulties, I don’t see an issue with the spam only because the enemy density is so little. It’s up to you though at your discretion if you want to. If it works for you, keep doing it for sure. I always say, play how you want to play & let nobody stop you.
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On lower difficulties it works, can work on havoc, but In my opinion only without rotten armor, yet i saw people bring it to rotten armor which ended with them wasting ammo, while being unable to tank as good and/or do damage as ogryn with other keystones and talents can. One guy before “fix” of rotten armor, used whole ammo crate to kill one horde of armor, at the start of the map.
Also even on auric i think health increase hit rumbler and such build viability a little, it just don’t give same level of clearing screen as before and at higher ammo and(or) time cost.
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Yeah, it’s one of those things where because they’re so tanky it’s just diminishing returns in the end. I have seen people do that in Havoc’s where there wasn’t Rotten & do actually decently. I think in Havoc’s in general it’s fallen off a bit because they just increased all the health pools. In lower difficulties I can totally see this working way better for sure. Mostly when I’m Ogryn I shield, Pickaxe, bully club or even shovel too. I’m mostly just a melee Oggy, personally.
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skill issue
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Ogryn’s ranged weapons could use some small buffs, only real gripe. Frag bomb needs a buff.
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Like, the single barrel stubbers? If you get headshots, it seems fine to me, unless you mean something else. Yes, since Scum gets 4 rocket launchers, why can’t Ogryn get at least 2-3 nades or something like that too. It’s kind of nonsensical to me or at the very least buff the nade slightly more. I really think one of the main issues is that his weapon diversity is super small. There’s really no options weapon-wise, they really need to expand his arsenal.
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There’s nothing wrong with the class. I rather dodge linger got entirely removed than ogryn got buffed to the other character’s levels. I didn’t watch the vid as I find mr. e in particular to be a bit too clickbait/ragebait for me to be interested in them, but he’s never been a particularly interesting player to watch anyways, and definitely isn’t one that I find I would learn anything from playing the game, especially for a class like ogryn. Rawk’s got that covered imo.
It’s a shame that content creators rather focus on easy fish like “x needs buff/is weak” instead of actual hard conversations about the game’s current direction and how we spam a lot of threats that can kill even ogryn in like 2 or so hits and still be considered largely a non-issue. I rather focus be turned towards balancing the easiest options and making them more difficult, and therefore fun, to use.
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Basically, yes. I think Ogryn is actually fine besides a few oddities that can absolutely need some fine-tuning adjustments & of course adding a hefty number of weapons to his arsenal too. He’s one of the more balanced classes in the game in my eyes at least. People really overreact & blow things out of proportion as soon a famous Youtuber has some negative connotations with a class & then they just parrot those conceptions as they were a holy scripture. Then of course, Fatshark tinkers with the class again & makes it back to where it’s semi-OP then we’re back to square one. Another prospective is obviously not balancing things around a niche end-game mode for sweat-lords that would be good for starters. Makes difficulties below just senseless & more intuitive. If some of the obvious outliers were nerfed just a bit that’s a decent start at the very least. They won’t dare do this because of review bombing, so we might as well get used to it.
His balancing takes have always been bad
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The balance of auric is so bad that I rather just not play the game anymore. There’s simply too much garbage to avoid when it comes to teammate builds that ruin the game now.
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Like, what more specifically? For me, playing on lower difficulties with flame staff Psyker is a waste of time, because they just eat up all your kills & make it easy street with spam. As soon as I see this when I play underneath Havoc’s, I leave the game. That’s like maybe one of the only times I really leave games at the start.
Civi is the easiest “not playing that” grind in the world as every psyker, tauntgryn, vet, hive scum, and arbites is going to bring the most obvious aoe stunlocking tools in the world that prevents anything from happening or they bring the most obvious aoe killing tools that makes sure nothing happens.
shock mine arbites, dog arbites, hive scum, psyker, rumblergryn, vets with infinite ammo builds, voc vets depending on my mood, chorusbots if they’re really obnoxious with it, stealthlots, but not stealth vets, will all make me leave the game or ask someone to block me so I can find a different lobby if I particularly like the map and modifiers involved. I will also leave if I notice someone is playing a build that makes havoc 40 a snoozefest as well, especially in aurics.
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Shots fired lol!
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i mean i watched his video the guy is just bad. hes playing bad his postitioning is bad, kiting and dodging is bad. his builds are bad his ogryn rumbler spam build is carrying him and even that isnt optimized at all so ill call it bad as well. its just a skill issue you can play shield bully pickaxe taunt charge rumbler spam… you name it… in 40’s and you can do good if u know what ur doing, and thats where the problem is. I played every build in 40 and all of them are viable, except point blank barrage lol. carapace on rumbler thats all i needed to see in the 1st 5 seconds of his build videos to click off
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