@FatsharkJulia
I am sorry for the ping not sure if there is someone specific for this to be discussed with. What is our stance on a mod with voice over possibility. I do understand we had a previous mod that was banned due to a spam of vo for picking up a vacuum capsule but what are stances on certain exclusions or limits. For example “For The Emperor” mod has a VO button included although later this was added to the game originally it was just a button that will play that voice line, either way it did include such a capability. Currently I am very deep into a mod that expends a lot on this, a trigger voice line of pick up med stim that actually has a ping function to show where it is instead of the tag option. Is there possibility to allow this functionality so long as it’s on some typical limit like a forced 15 second cooldown on any VOs, forced protections on spamming and hot key exclusions for vos. I would like to know if there is a concrete stance before I risk and publish a mod then have to refactor to remove all vo functionality. Can any developer or moderators confirm will this banned or is there a way to have exclusions based on functionality.
I can tell you from how unfun the mod police is they will probably not let it be uploaded if it can pull from generic voice lines. I have a contraband mod (for the vacuum capsule) that was once on nexus mods but removed because they literally do not allow most fun unless its for gooners (they made a search option for only NSFW mods, bunch of actual goonlords lurking in gooncaves).
I don’t mind risking a ban it’s not end of the world it will simply be reuploaded wit the vo options fully stripped down but it will be nice to know before I do.
Nah there is nothing in the ToS against those mods. You’re more likely to run into friction with the people who run the actual mod sites, because like I said they consider this griefing. I guess they weren’t around for Left 4 Dead.
I will add the 10-15 second vo protections either way I don’t want someone to just spam this for myself either but the rules for mods are very open ended depending on their intrusion I guess
Anything that might “affect another player’s experience” is against FS mod ToS which means For the Vacuum Capsule is technically not allowed. It’s generally agreed to keep it off Nexus and the like just as a safety measure, though you’re not really at risk of being banned at all unless you’re obnoxious about it (and even then you can just mute someone’s text chat to silence any comm wheel voice lines…).
OP’s mod idea would likely fall under the same umbrella.
It’s not risking YOU, it’s risking modding as a whole.
I do not think that is true, it all depends the intention and limits one adds, if the functionality is actually non intrusive and can has every protection in place you are adding more value than reduction. As before, some mods do actually already do this and some already can be of annoyance and are nexus yet there is no banning. The intention is what matters, if somehow a mod that helps and adds value to a game and is properly done this should not be punished but we will see
I would wait for lopus or catfish to approve it
Also what’s with the second account (@rylycsgo)
Honestly, it was a throw away from the very start to begin with. Better start fresh. Let’s just say I like the game enough so if il be making it better I wanna do it right this time. It was fun while it lasted.
If the voice lines aren’t spammable out of context then it should be fine. “For the emperor” wasn’t taken down since it’s not weird for the characters to be saying that.
Saying “vacuum capsule” with no corresponding item present seems to be a step too far (or more likely it was flagged down by discorders who didn’t want their super secret mod becoming less exclusive).
Mods that let you tag items through walls are allowed despite playing voice lines and effecting the experience of others so I don’t see why this would be a problem.
So what I have made has a hard encoded filters on all spams that I add functionality to, if the functionality can already be spammed without mods I did not change this, since it’s not up to me to decide that part, leave open to developer side changes. But for VOs it does not allow multiple vos to play and cannot be hot key spammed and locked to 30 second cooldown. I feel like that is a fair level of allowance plus all vos are actually attached to what they supposed to do in game.
Hey! My recommendation would be to share this in the Modding Discord in #making-mods, the community and Fatshark’s modding mastermind Lopus can talk this through with you and help decide on the best route to take.
some people didn’t get it when saying “vacuum capsule” wasn’t funny anymore.
so if people make a mod that only they can hear, why not.
but when they’re able to flood the other player’s clients with immersion-breaking sounds, and the others can’t block that, it’s a big no.
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