My… hero?
Way to underscore the point made ol’ boy. Whether this particular instance was you or not is ultimately not the problem. I can personally vouch for your lackluster judgement in other scenarios so how about a more diplomatic and amicable approach as someone in a position of some authority?
And also, again, criticizing you is not attacking you. Simmer down.
I guess this happens when your impotent threats are faced with ridicule. This is why no one wants power tripping discord people moderating. They can’t take their ego out of the conversation and act professional.
Yeah fella where do you get off thinking this is how you ought to talk to people in here? This is not your own personal little kingdom where you can act as you please.
Well, based on what you just posted right here, you’re utterly undeserving of a moderation position. The moment you take on a picture of authority, you lose the privilege of snarking about and taking pot-shots at the community members. You should be utterly embarrassed of this post.
And if you want to silence me for calling out your failure to uphold some meaningful standard of professionalism, even as a volunteer, then that further lowers my opinion of your capacity to hold this role.
And this? This right here? Kindly leave this discussion forum and never come back. This is the exemplar of why you cannot hold this position, and if you cannot see this then I simply don’t know what to say.
Go right ahead and lose your temper some more. Shameful. Simply shameful.
Hey now!
I’m nice and friendly!
But seriously though, as combative as I can be, some of my stuff (from when the game and forum still had people) had serious amounts of likes, so I like to think I was the voice of quite a lot of frustrated people.
Book of Grudges deserves better than… er… what just happened here. Let’s try to keep this going as a useful grudge thread, regardless of how one might feel about… what just happened here.
Indeed this. As snarky as we can (all) be, there’s a lot of wisdom to be found here if you know who to avoid. Further, it’s clear that we have to rise above the nonsense of those select people -the names of whom we all know quite well- because those names seem intent on sabotaging or spoiling the discourse. Even if people won’t listen we can have a clear conscience about actually caring for this game and doing our best to make issues and concerns noticed, putting that care and effort ahead of our egos.
Face it, if I can put my ego aside, anyone can.
The ego is the biggest obstacle to truth. Mandatory psilocybin ceremonies for all, I say.
I think you’ll find that I have not banned anyone from this forum, at all, and have not silenced anyone for criticizing me either. I responded in jest to the surprise that Ragnarok expressed at some of you still being allowed to post here. It’s not a threat, it’s sarcasm.
You may not see it, but we are still very hands-off in our approach at the moment. This idea that you all have to live in fear of being banned by me at any moment is unfounded, especially if it’s for criticizing me. I’m an adult, I can take it. Don’t worry about that. I just might let you know when I think that some of you are behaving in a way that’s beneath you.
No one is fearing being banned. You’re not exactly threatening. What people dislike is their posts getting flagged or removed based on your more than questionable judgement. Skewing the discourse in the process.
The forums were actually more hands-off before your appreanace. That is why people are reacting this way to your antics.
Yes, some of you take very badly to being moderated at all, I’m aware. But I’m not going to bite my tongue when I’m dragged into a thread and called a child molester – over something I didn’t even do, need I remind you? Without even a hint of contrition from anyone involved. You can blame me for the assumptions and dogpiling that happened in here all you want, but your excuses ring hollow with me.
I blame you for your lack of aforementioned professionalism which lead to this entire situation in the first place. And I’m not the only one apparently. You assuming a victim role proves the point.
The fact that you’re conflating a single guy’s insults hurled towards you, be it justified or not, with above issues of your handling is the icing on the cake.
Is this the evolved version of your ‘I don’t make the rules it’s the guidelines, guys!’-deflection?
Edit: I also find it funny that commanderJ of all people wanted to get back to topic and drop it, and you just HAD to get back one more time. Talk about ego. You’re basically confirming everything we’re saying.
Ok so you didn’t silence Kambrin, fair enough. I said what I said with the information I had, but it turns out that that was not correct. That doesn’t change any of your previous actions and statements, both in this thread and elsewhere.
Way to completely absolve yourself of any responsibility here. You’re being immature as hell brother, I don’t know what else to call it. That in itself is bad enough for a grown man, but you’re also a moderator, a role which generally involves a level of dispassionate neutrality. Yet here we find you being snarky, quick to disregard all critiques directed towards you whilst you yourself act as toxic as you accuse others of being.
Tbf I did think I warned you lol.
I really, heavily disagree. If it was an official FS employee? Sure. But for a community moderator I really disagree.
I would much rather have a moderator that is involved with the community and banters and jokes around just as much as the rest of us, than one who is silent and doesn’t interact. They are not only able to than better understand and resolve issues, but another person to talk about stuff with is always great. Especially if they are a playtester, that is a unique viewpoint we didn’t have access to before.
Honestly I feel like from the start this whole thing has been blown way out of proportion, starting with the vitriol about community playtesters. From past experiences I have a very low opinion of moderators however both Incandescent and Hank haven’t done anything I would deem to be out of line.
As for Cerebrophage, I actually agree with Hank on how that played out (from what I’ve seen about it). It takes two to tango, and even when maybe he veered off topic others hopped in with him off track to lambast him. And while I don’t agree with a lot of what he says or the way he argues, he was far more polite, even if maybe in a passive agressive way, than the responses to him were.
Kambrin being silenced is weird and I don’t really get it unless something weird happened that I missed. Idk why he said it was by Hank. Maybe they were talking in DMs before it happened and that’s what he assumed.
All in all I feel like there is some sort of “Martydom Complex,” going on, where everyone wants to stand up to big bad Fatshark for trying to stomp on us or something. Perhaps it’s pretentious of me to say but I’m a bit dissapointed. It would’ve been great to sort of bridge the gap in a way between the Discord and Forums, and I felt they both had a lot of interesting stuff to share since that first thread they showed up. But it seems unlikely that will happen now, and places a very poor look on all of us.
I would say maybe step back for a second, since it seems like all of this started from a misunderstanding. And while I can’t see Kambrins post it sounds like it was very aggressive itself.
Kambrin did not get banned, he got muted for 2 days after insulting someone, having that post removed, and then doubling down immediately with another insult
Play stupid games and win stupid prizes 
I really don’t wanna get this thread nuked for the flame war that’s going on right now, considering how useful it is as a catalogue of dumb decisions related to the game, not the forums. Bad moderator is bad, let’s get back to complaining about bad company is bad pls.
This is definitely a joke theory, but I wanna say that most of the decisions FS makes feel like they’re coming from people who internalized “bad publicity is still publicity” without understanding how that sentiment is supposed to be applied.
this somehow reminds me of those war movies where the fresh from academy officer comes in from reserves and thinks he’s above the common soldier who’s endured years of fighting.
community ain’t gonna respect anybody for a fancy badge that’s for sure