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This is makes sense and is honest. If you like gambling then you also like the crafting system.

This has nothing to do with crafting. Even if we had a deterministic crafting system you could still pack a grey devil claw, a grey mk II brauto, not spend a single skill and join an auric maelstrom mission to show off your exceptional skills.

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I disagree.

Haven’t read any back and forth just wanna throw in my own two cents discussing something about crafting other than just “it’s bad”.

I actually also like the idea of a “work with what you’ve got” kind of system where you build around what you have rather than what you would ideally want. That’s the kind of diversity and decision making that make some roguelikes compelling to me.

Unfortunately Darktide does a poor job of this for me by doing a generally bad job of balancing stats, blessings and perks against each other. Having sub optimal gear rarely leads to playstyle variety, and more often just leads to a weapon taking more hits to kill things with few advantages to counter that. There are a few cases where utility blessings actually affect your gameplay like stripped down, ghost, blood letter, manstopper and make a good argument for themselves over just stacking damage and power as effectively as possible.

Manstopper and flechette aren’t ground breaking but at least they allow for interactions like weapon specialist guaranteed crit effect to be used to build into what you’ve got going on and potentially define more of your playstyle around. Not saying they succeed entirely to be clear but at least it’s something.

While we are wading through dreck as things are currently, it would be nice to at least give us more opportunities to dodge a bunch of the garbage options they’ve given us.

However, if FS was to address things in their itemisation update not by giving us more agency, but instead making options more streamlined (remove or rework blessings that give basically the same effect as others at less output eg some of the cleave blessings), and focused on instead balancing stats, perks, and blessings against each other, giving stronger utility effects to compete with damage options, perhaps some stronger effects generally on more difficult conditions, then honestly I could see myself being being hype for that.

Like what if BCR could be stacked to the point of negating a crusher overhead here and there with blocks. That would definitely make me more interested in seeing a BCR perk pop up on my weapon. There are many options and utilities that could be explored here that’s just an easy example using something that already exists but is largely ignored.

Here’s the kicker though, if they went that route they’d need to do a really good job of getting the balance and relative strength of our options right. I don’t think they’ve displayed the proficiency in balancing to be relied upon to do this. It would probably be safer for everyone if they go the route to just give us more agency. Takes pressure off them to get the balancing right lol.

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We’ll have to see what happens.

I debated whether to like the op partly because of snipes like this that you pointed out. I dont feel its needed when the point of your post @Cerebrophage is to inject positivity in to the forums and steer away from criticisms.

Overall I like the idea of the op. Its good to have a range of posts on the forums and I dont think we should :poop: on people who make such threads, but when you @Cerebrophage :poop: on other people you invite the :poop: in.

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In my experience, especially when changing diapers, no matter how much :poop:you end up cleaning up, no matter how much you wash your hands. It’ll still smell like :poop:. And your kid is just gonna start crying again needing you to change the​:poop:again in 3 - 6 hours anyway.

Then dont have kids

Edit: I just want to add, this is said in the context of the thread, not in real life. Reading it back it could look harsher than I intend because again, its in the context of the thread, which much to my amusement and slight vexation you, @Cerebrophage , are derailing your own thread!! :sweat_smile:

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That’s kind of a short-sighted bit of advice, but thank you. I’ve had my third and that’s the last :slight_smile:

My point is (in the context of the thread), you birth it, you clean it up, dont complain about it and tell people not to bring it in :kissing_heart:

I had one, that was enough thanks :sweat_smile: although cleaning nappies was the easiest bit imo.

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Lol! Don’t tell me when changing your kid’s diaper that you didn’t shout “GOD THAT’S VILE!” at least once (or something to those words)

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Yes, but I did it and I didnt make my son feel bad for it or punish him or tell him not to. It was my fault in the first place, so I take full responsibility for my actions :mask:

I don’t think my lilun’ understood as they were six months old. You ever do that thing where you tell your S/O to come in and check that monster out and even she is repulsed by it? Good times.

Edit: What do you mean your fault in the first place? Did you feed him something that upset his lil tummy?

So again, within the context of the thread, if you tell people not to :poop: then :poop: on people, dont be surprised when you get the :poop: you asked people not to do. The kid thing is a metaphor.

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Oh, I dropped the metaphor a while ago and went on to talk about kids.

All I’ve ever received since I started being daily active here is :poop: since day 1. So I don’t wouldn’t know what normalcy is.

Thats why Im steering it back to the metaphor. Mine has grown up and I dont wanna go back!

Be the change etc etc

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I tried being the change. It didn’t work. People kept trying to push and push. So… I’ve kinda given up on trying to appease anyone because as we’ve found, there’s always gonna be someone who has something to say, no matter how much work you put into something.

Would you believe I even got mocked for that? When I came here, I tried echoing the tone of the room and was passing jokes. I was speaking to Lil_Aryslav (now Khorne_Dawg) and I gave my experience when playing, and expressed doubt to the level of “bad luck” that was being described. I said “I’ll take :poop: that doesn’t happen for 500$ Alex!” (Actually, I think I was responding to someone else, but Aryslav replied to me saying “You’re not that guy” and I said (trying to reference Terrance and Phillip) “And I’m not your guy, friend!” then they made some hostile remark over what was meant to be a friendly jest and they started getting hostile. Out of confusion I asked who hurt them as their response was extremely… well. Extreme. Ever since, it’s just been nothing but hostility and no breather. But w/e.

Mediocre

edit: seriously tho, BE the change, not attempt to change and be :poop: when you dont get the responses you want :stuck_out_tongue:

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That isn’t what happened.

Globally agree with your post.

Exept i am quite surprise that a VT2 veterant like darktide crafting system

I explain quite in depth with VT2 comparison why it s bad and unhealthy for the game here

I am myself a huge fans of the game but I actually prefer playing VT2 because of it grind cycle much better and it s extraimly good gameplay. Darktide his cycle is awfully design only the gameplay save him with all the artistic element.

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So, if I am understanding you correctly, you had a weapon that would not be grandfathered into the dual locking system if you chose two perks or two blessings, am I understanding you correctly? You like the stats, but not the perks/blessings?