I think the big thing is that even if they made it so first hit was +25% and next hits were -10% or 15% it would still present an upgrade and push you into doing more single hits instead of just gimping the weapon entirely if you chain more than 1 hit.
Even after the change it would still be situational (mostly benefiting on one or shot chain hits) while not completely gimping it everywhere else.
but honestly the broader problem imo and the reason players laser focus it as the âworst blessingâ, myself included, is because it forces the player to adapt a non-standard and lateral playstyle to get maximum utility instead of giving that as a choice. thereâs nothing wrong with an option/item which provides this tradeoff, there is everything wrong with forcing players to accept it.
you want that kind of weird lateral stuff to be accessible but always optional. the players who want it will gravitate to it, the players who donât will ignore it. imagine if the âlimbsplitterâ functionality was in a feat tree somewhere - people who want to adopt the block cancelling style of play would take it and everyone else would not. as is now, a player disinterested would get the blessing as often as someone interested, often on their extremely limited supply of high power items. this leads to frustration!
With Limb Splitter youâre often only going to block-cancel-spam that one single attack (and maybe one other attack if Light 1 comes out faster than Heavy 1 for use against more plentiful targets).
Youâre desperate and it shows.
First of all maniac damage tend to be far higher on light attack so there absolutely is an use for light attack 1, which shows you donât play enough of the game.
With limb splitter it absolutely can use chained attacks(heavy 2 or even light 2) when appropriate.
If it was 2 hit anyway(yes that can still happen on damnation), +25% and -25% on attacks with same damage wouldnât make a difference. Most enemies that you care about damage on are from 300 to 900hp(and mostly flak and maniac). With Limbsplitter you can easily hit 400+(+25% from low-300s against flak head) to reach 2 shot(obviously depends on the roll and perk) for 900s, at that point 750s will be 2 shot regardless of if you use heavy1-bc or not.
As usual youâre so desperately trying to prove you have depth you ended up doing the polar opposite.
I wonder why they decided to add - damage to Limb Splitter when thereâs literally thing like Power Cycler that improve weapon by a huge margin without any downside.
My axe used to one shot most enemy in the head with light combo but when I rolled limb splitter on it all the subsequent attack after the first just leave them with tiny bit of health. I pretty much dropped it after that even though it used to be one of my favorite.
Desperate? Iâve detailed the specific reason Limb Splitterâs design reduces depth:
Well your post doesnât address that.
So to recap:
Well until you have a reason Iâm wrong, stop pretending you disagree! Itâs weird.
projecting your insecurities much?
You nearly always open with an attack on the person rather than their opinion. You should stop that.
You forgot the fact that axe is mostly singletarget so in fact most of the gameplay consists of spamming left click(though there is push attack when you donât have brutal momentum). Whether itâs light1 or 2, heavy1 or 2âŚetc. doesnât make a real difference beyond the direction of attack. So you basically think âdepthâ is spamming leftclick just because every move is used on the enemy.
With limbsplitter it can still use those attacks when appropriate. Therefore there is more depth, none of your excuses could counter this.
Again:
With limb splitter it absolutely can use chained attacks(heavy 2 or even light 2) when appropriate.
If it was 2 hit anyway(yes that can still happen on damnation), +25% and -25% on attacks with same damage wouldnât make a difference. Most enemies that you care about damage on are from 300 to 900hp(and mostly flak). With Limbsplitter you can easily hit 400+(+25% from low-300s against flak head) to reach 2 shot(obviously depends on the roll and perk) for 900s, at that point 750s will be 2 shot regardless of if you use heavy1-bc or not.
I know you like to conveniently ignore the parts you canât respond to so here it is.
To nail your coffin, there is also the fact that youâre not guaranteed to always be able to attack at max attack speed due to dodge(axe has short reach so dodging can put you out of your own attack range), block, or in case of you, eating hits.
So to recap:
Your original claim:
With Limb Splitter youâre often only going to block-cancel-spam that one single attack (and maybe one other attack if Light 1 comes out faster than Heavy 1 for use against more plentiful targets).
What I responded with:
First of all maniac damage tend to be far higher on light attack so there absolutely is an use for light attack 1, which shows you donât play enough of the game.
I proved light 1 has its uses for a completely different reason from what you imagined it to be.
So you: âmaybe, because itâs fasterâ
Me: âit actually absolutely is useful, because it does more damage against maniacâ
This doesnât agree with your bs. You merely accidentally arrived at the correct conclusion without even knowing why, hence I had to correct you yet again.
And again, because we all know you have trouble understanding which part you couldnât counter:
If it was 2 hit anyway(yes that can still happen on damnation), +25% and -25% on attacks with same damage wouldnât make a difference. Most enemies that you care about damage on are from 300 to 900hp(and mostly flak). With Limbsplitter you can easily hit 400+(+25% from low-300s against flak head) to reach 2 shot(obviously depends on the roll and perk) for 900s, at that point 750s will be 2 shot regardless of if you use heavy1-bc or not.
In conclusion, you still couldnât address the fact that limbsplitter adds more thought into axe gameplay.
Still waiting on you to back up your claim but youâve been dodging burden of proof as usual.
Projecting projection?
Funny but it never works for your kind.
Though to be fair, I imagine I might feel a little insecure if I was ever slapped around with reality like what I did to you above:
Notice how I addressed the issue, not your person(how pompous of you to assume I ever thought of you to be a person), even going out of my way to explain some basic concepts of dps/ttk, until you took it all personally due to, as usual, you getting outed as having been straight up wrong(then doubling down on being wrong just to pretend you had a point).
lol, you do understand not everyone spending their time in testing absolutely every weapon with every blessing, right?
Yeah, he is local elitist, literally trying to flex his skills in every thread. Hormonal problems maybe.
Like I told the other person: if you canât argue against my actual position, why not just agree with me?
Clearly here youâre arguing against your own imagination: youâre not arguing against what I said, but against imaginary things that an imaginary version of me said in your mind.
An argument that Limb Splitter doesnât eliminate depth would have to prove that different attacks are viable in the same (or greater) number of situations, but you canât argue that (even for a weapon whose base depth is fairly low, like Combat Axes where the attacks really donât offer much in the way of variety and distinct strengths).
Limb Splitter didnât âadd depthâ just because some of the depth from the base weapon remains valid. (It was the base weapon that caused that depth, not Limb Splitter.)
Adding depth would be if a blessing created more nuance to when you use each attack, but the things youâre describing are true of the base weapon.
So until you have a reason to actually disagree with me, maybe pump the brakes on embarrassing yourself?
Maybe itâs because all those posts got deleted by a moderator? There are examples in other threads too. It seems youâve made quite the reputation for yourself anyways. Should probably take my advice.
They made it this way on purpose itâs a part of the time sink nature of the entire system. They dilute the blessing pool with some trash to give you the chance of a bad roll or a bricked item.
Nice ideas but they dont listen to us on the forum mate +1 for trying though.
lol still up to your old tricks I see. smh
What a steaming pile of crap 
Just read that back to yourself⌠I would check to see how you guys ended up with statements like this but its just not worth it. What a stupid argument to have.
Super easy, barely an inconvenience. Open the program, hit the âDeleteâ key. Fixed. Pay me FatShark!
Agreed, balance the blessings/perks no one wants or delete it. Having useless perks or blessings is just pointless.
Sorry, is there something wrong with my asking people to argue against things Iâm actually saying?
If people argue against things I didnât say, thatâs their mistake, not mine.
Ask yourself why you even posted what you posted. Clearly you didnât have a reason Iâm wrong either, right? Well if Iâm right, why are you opposing the truth?
Wouldnât mind if limbsplitter was like, +60% on first swing, and then subsequent swings went down by 20% per until you were back down to 0, so that you never actually hindered your DPS, you just reset to normal. Kind of like opening salvo i guess.
Originally I was replying to someone else then I saw another ridiculous and pointless argument and of course there you are again.
Iâm not âopposing the truthâ lol just pointing out statements like
Are asinine.
Opposing the truth lol.
I should thank you though really you reminded me why I donât generally get involved with forums on the internet.
You got problems with logic. Your opinion worth nothing if you know nothing. If you know something, than there is some weight for your opinion.
If it was ridiculous, you could explain why. Well you didnât, because you canât.
So try a new strategy: when you donât have a valid reason to disagree with them, instead of hurling meaningless insults donât say anything.
Like with this post: thereâs a clear reason youâre wrong (you hurl insults, distract off topic, and post weird disagreements when the other person isnât actually wrong) and I explained the mistake you were making rather than insult you.
I explained how it eliminates depth. Weapons by default have up to 8 different attacks viable in different scenarios. With Limb Splitter the relative value of those attacks is dramatically adjusted, strongly favoring L1,H1,Push-attack. Nearly always this results in fewer viable attacks after Limb Splitter is taken.
Thatâs an elimination of depth. You started with more viable attacks, and ended with fewer.
If you want to address this argument, then you have to show that you ended with the same (or more) viable attacks.
Well did your posts do that? They didnât.
