Don’t they refer to any rating agency?
PEGI has been used since years without any issue.
It would be… kind of very stupid to use the USK which exists based on German law.
If Fatshark could use USK they could also use PEGI then xD
Vienna=Main City after all
You know what I will ask the country directly and see what they say. - Email is out.
people here are right, the only change that was there is that games have to show a rating to be distributed digitaly.
this doesn’t change anything about the already rated version.
that is if the information given was truthfully, otherwise they state that they may re-rate it.
here is the thing tho: if a game is rated, you can go a simplified route to rate the versions on other platforms.
interestingly enough you can look up the reasoning for the Xbox Version of the game, not the pc version though…
and the Xbox version was, as far as i know, one of those where ragdoll interactions were disabled from the beginning.
furthermore i still can’t find a database entry for the PS5 version, even tho the USK states that as soon as you’ve send in a copy of said game, the database entry is automatically made public.
i may be wrong here, i had to research most of this so most of it isn’t coming from my own knowledge.
but that people who point this out in detail are just ghosted here isn’t helping the situation that, in all respect, looks more and more suspicious the more i research it.
would love to get some awnsers here:
why do you censore the game, when it already got a rating that most probably wont be removed if you gave them all the necessary and correct information?
what version of the game got trough the FULL rating process?
why isn’t there a statement on the reasoning for the PC version?
why is there still no database-entry, even tho the game is already released on the PS5 and shows an USK 18 rating there?
edit: before someone mentions this.
i know that the PC version got it’s rating before the xbox version.
but this still means nothing to me, as we don’t know how the simplified rating works.
it may be that the game get theire rating based on the questionaire but then have to be verified by reviewing a copy of this games, that way it would be possible that the not-reviewd copy gets it rating earlier.
This. Its especially rude to just ignore the whole thing and pretend like its allright like FS is currently doing, while its not. That Statement up there is as transparent and honest as the “apology letter” back in 2022/23 after release.
Can we get some transparency on this please? What exactly does “as they were before” mean, was there censorship on the Japanese PC version before, and if so exactly what and why? Please respond.
For me as an 40 years + austrian (PC only player) there is only one „solution“…Remove this censorship in the upcoming hotfix COMPLETELY or im gone with your games. Its sad to say…but it is what it is! This is just a bad joke im my eyes. Its about the principle…
There was no more statement since the last one. I don’t think that anyone from Fatshark cares anymore. Sadly. I still try to get a refund from Sony so I can buy the PEGI Version. If I have to keep the censored Version, I will not buy any Cosmetics, what I normally do in games I want to support.
Yes, it seems like only speak money. Shame, nothing has changed since release on that regard. Btw, seems no mentions in the changelog of hotfix 54, did they still partiality revert back or didn’t they do even that?
they don’t mention hotfix 54 in particular but the promissed changes can be found in the patchnotes under ‘Updated the gore settings restrictions applied to specific countries:’ near the end.
i’ve read from a few people that they wrote to the USK, didn’t find an answer yet.
and honestly with how they ignore us here i’m jost going to write them my self, explaining the whole situation (including the version differences) and forwarding my questions to them instead.
if my suspicion is true this probably won’t end well, but i really don’t care anymore, they aren’t fully reverting back anyways and if this truly is the case, they brought that onto them selfs.
Ah, didn’t see that. I’ve also contacted the Usk, so far no response yet.
they betrayed customers that already paid, customers they already milked.
i know what i will do. i won’t ever spend a dime or a minute in a fatshark game again.
simple as that.
Yup, they finally lost me too. The arrogance of this developer is really something.
With ur descission to censore the game at ps5 launch u betrayed every ps5 player ! I had no Information or comunication about censorship! If i would NEVER pre order ur Premium Edition of ur game ! And u guys know that thats why there was no Information bevor it feels like a scam ! For me Personal its a huge Problem i cant play a game that feels censored and its clearly visual to notice this censorship its not only after death ragdoll its way more if i check uncensored gameplay footage to what i get now.
May the USK scamed u guys i dont know but its crazy for example the game Wanted Dead for ps5 have an 16 rating in germany ok 16 ! And it have so much gore blood and realistic kill moves with gun and katana and a Fantasy Darktide rated 18 has less and its censored that makes no sense to me!
If this censorship do not turn to his original form of the game im done i will NEVER EVER spend a Single dime for ur games im pissed as HELL! I was waiting sooooooooo long to play it and than i get betrayed in the end, thats my reward as a gamer that spends more money for a Premium Edition to get finaly betrayed of what i was expected to get.
Austrian here.
This is the official Website of our Bundeskanzleramt, Sektion Family.
It states:
Die USK ist eine Einrichtung des Jugendschutzes in Deutschland. Das deutsche Jugendschutzgesetz fordert eine Kennzeichnung von Medien, aus der hervorgeht, ab welchem Alter eine Beeinträchtigung der Entwicklung im Allgemeinen nicht mehr befürchtet werden muss. Die “Unterhaltungssoftware Selbstkontrolle” (USK) führt entsprechende Prüfungen der Spiele durch und die Hersteller kennzeichnen die Spiele mit der von der USK ausgesprochenen Alters-Freigabe. Details zu den verschiedenen Altersstufen und der Arbeitsweise der USK finden Sie im Internet unter: www.usk.de. Die USK-Kennzeichnung ist in Österreich nicht verbindlich, sie befindet sich deshalb auch auf Spielen in Österreich, weil die Spiele für den österreichischen und deutschen Markt gemeinsam produziert werden.
in English:
4 What do these various stickers or labels on USK and PEGI games mean?
The USK is an organization for the protection of minors in Germany. The German Youth Protection Act requires media to be labeled to indicate the age at which there is generally no need to fear any impairment of development. The “Entertainment Software Self-Regulation Body” (USK) carries out corresponding tests on games and the manufacturers label the games with the age rating issued by the USK. Details on the different age groups and how the USK works can be found on the Internet at: www.usk.de. The USK labeling is not mandatory in Austria, but is also found on games in Austria because the games are produced jointly for the Austrian and German markets.
USK ist NOT mandatory. We don’t have USK nor PEGI. Our states give recommendations about it, but there is no law that binds you to either one.
The situation for video games is similar to that for video films; here too, there is no binding age rating or approval for Austria, but there are two age recommendations. On the one hand, computer games have been labeled by the “Pan European Game Information” (“PEGI”, www.pegi.info) since 2003; on the other hand, there is also the “Entertainment Software Self-Regulation” (“USK”, www.usk.de), which applies in Germany. Again, neither of these recommendations are legally binding, but they do provide an accurate indication of whether a specific game is to be classified as harmful to minors within the meaning of the Lower Austrian Youth Act and therefore may not be made accessible to young people. More information on video games and the protection of minors, including recommendations, can be found on the website of the Federal Agency for the Positive Rating of Digital Games: https://bupp.at
I created an account here just to reply to this -
I’m a little out of the loop on this, I own the gamepass/Microsoft version of darktide;
Does the steam version actually feature more gore features/ragdoll interactions?
I would ditch my version and repurchase the game if so
I’m not 100% sure of the status of this, post-Grim Protocols (and hotfixes). @igromanru have you had a chance to look at the most recent LUA for the Microsoft Store version to see if the ragdoll code has been added in for that?
Edit:
update 2 - Ragdoll interactions and dismemberment seem to be fully in the Xbox app version now; had a great session tonight chunking up hordes. Good stuff
MOAH chunks 
just checked and ragdoll interactions are back in the steam version as well.
crazy how often and quick the USK changes theire ruling…
don’t get me wrong, i appreciate it.
but it’s obvious that we weren’t told the truth.
and that is what makes me really angry.
i take that as a win on points.
not that my loadorder is bloated anyways, but less mods usually means more stable darktide 
huge thanks though for those involved making the mod in the first place 
most importantly it´s uncensored by default, as it should be in the first place.
Fully back or with the restrictions they anounced about dead bodies?