Stagger from shotguns is gone, why?

I haven’t played a shotgun in a while but I did today and found out that I can no longer stagger a Crusher with it. Idk since when but why? The wep has never been OP, why nerfing it?

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Crushers and bulwarks were buffed. The weapons weren’t nerfed (as I understand it).

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It’s more the enemies were buffed and the shotguns were left behind, again.

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From the redemption patch notes

In the enemies section, they increased the stagger resistance of the big guys.
I miss using my shotguns :frowning: … but they are a bit off the pace.

bruh, I tried in meat grinder, talking about “chain crowd control” but all 3 shotguns won’t stagger Crusher one bit.

I’m sure they are preventing other chaining methods but damn this hurts shotgun users LOL

yeah, my mind immediately went to the Ogryn slaps when I originally read it. Does an Agripiina slug round to the head still stagger? It’s been so long since I last used it.

“Bolt action” type play with the Agrip is still incredibly strong if you can hit your shots, but beyond that yeah they’re a bit meh

Crusher overhead is so stagger resistant atm a bunch of stagger only moves don’t even work. Like the force sword push attack that does 1 damage and instant stagger level 2/3 on any non boss enemy, completely no sells it.

But riding in with Full Bore and a stagger 1 stack already on the crusher as he starts the attack, Kantrael or Agrip Slug will send him to stagger 2. So its not impossible atm. Kinda surprising they can still pull it off at all with how ungodly stagger immune Crusher is right now.

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Shotguns are pretty meh now. A few patches ago the general consensus was “they’re solid but need an ammo buff” which we eventually got. But now power creep has left them behind again.

We did? Man, I missed that…

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