Yeah a good player can carry with any class. That doesn’t mean anything. I’m also wondering what kind of Surge staff you have, if you have, as you say, literal infinite CC.
I guess peril doesn’t exist for you.
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It does, but it’s just a pattern; I do have a good staff with high quell rating, but you just need under 100% for the next quick lightning. So, lightning, hold R to quell for a second, lightning, hold R to quell for a second, ect. Depending on your build this may even be advantageous, as it may also maximize charge time, crit, or damage reduction.
Game unrewarding to play*
Look at what you quoted me saying… then read your responce. You are either intentionally being obtuse about this or simply didnt bother to read what i said.
Again noone said it is the reward… it’s the price for the versatility, which is the reward, that i described.
Who cares? The psyker has a tool to deal with every single situation in the game. Literally, they have no weaknesses. They might not be the BEST at some jobs, but they can do ALL of them. I.e. Can a veteran kill a sniper faster? Yes, but at least you can brain burst. Therefore, it comes down to the player. This game always comes down to the player. Someone skilled will be able to perform well on every single class.
Furthermore, this talk of “BRINGING A CLASS” needs to stop. Its not even like people have a choice. You’re literally paired with people in quick play or play with your friends. No ones choosing a team and excluding you because of your class. Anyway, psyker not using ammo is more than enough reason to bring one.
I really hope they buff Psyker.
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Every character kills hordes faster than psyker
What? Are we playing the same game?
Any difficulty beyond 2 spawns gunners everywhere and you just hide behind barrels all the time because 2 bullets = toughness begone.
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When was that a thing? I played both betas and never seen that.
A little about me:
I main Psyker and regularly play the class on Damnation.
Do I think Psyker is weak? No.
Do I think BB is sometimes unsatisfying? Yes.
Now…
picking Jsat to showcase Psyker gameplay is a bit out there to say the least. The dude eclipses the skill level of like 99.7 % percent of active - emphasis on active - players out there.
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Psyker has the best cc in the game with surge staff. It is true that you have to quell, but just for cc you can use the most basic charge, which is extremely peril efficient. Furthermore it synergizes exceptionally well with Quietude.
Don’t you think it is possible to like something and still see room for reasonalbe improvement?
Not necessarily talking about the suggestions of the person you are responding to but more in general.
Things I’d change about BB:
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Make it target through railings. You can shoot through railings with all guns. The only exceptions here are BB and staves - why?
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For the left click I’d spread a portion of the total damage of BB across the cast duration to eliminate the issue of people killing targets you start to burst, which does feel unsatisfying.
Spread across 0-80% of its Cast time Brain Burst deals 50% of its total damage linearly.
From 80% to 99% it deals no damage and upon completing the cast it deals the remaining 50%. -
Right click atm is pretty useless imo. So what I would is give you the ability to precharge a BB with rightclick, that you can release by aiming with rmb and then pressing lmb, which does not get consumed through normal left click.
None of this is unreasonble. I still enjoy the class, but think these changes would eliminate some of the frustrations a lot of people have with the ability without making it busted.
All i read was BB useless in tiers IV and V. I see bullsht i call bullsit. Didn’t see anyone apart from you asking for minor refinements / improvements. Some guy wanted cast time & peril generation reductions and damage increase for BB…
I’m glad we clarified that it is the player skill issue.
Unless you are going to claim that the “underwhelming” psyker experience is down to the BB performance alone. In which case I would start to question how many of them actual play with Kinetic Barrage if they insist on using BB? Also maybe, just maybe too high expectations for the psyker’s “grenade” ability.
Just to be clear. I’m sure that as it was with V2 classes, we will see multiple minor and major balance passes, to flesh out some less useful talents and abilities.
Are you going to show me gameplay of core next after ChocoB for the representative psyker experience?
Glad you feel justified by the ring of that statement.
Dude - I never claimed, that the “underwhelming psyker experience” for majority of players is due to BB design. That is you projecting a straw man on me build from statements you’ve read other people make - just stop it. There are a lot of people that severely underestimate the class’ utility and effectiveness, but believe I’m not one of those.
I can only speak for myself in terms of what I find frustrating. For me it’s the simple fact, that when I use an ability I expect the ability to do something. Starting to BB a target only for it to get killed by someone else is extremely unsatisfying. Sure if you cast till 50% you get a Warp Charge, but who cares with how little they do and how fast they decay? Nobody. Effectively that was time wasted. That is literally the number one thing annoying me and it is not controversial.
I can make the class work to great effect. Does that mean I cannot have gripes with it? No.
Psyker seems really weak to me so far.
This is literally the original poster and topic of this thread? Also whilst you claim this is a strawman, a paragraph below that statement of yours, you complain only about the BB. I think I read enough.
While i don’t think psyker is as bad as many are making it out to be, i’m also not a fan of showing 1% playing the game to its extreme as some sort of proof. Jsat could probably make that run work just as well with any other career.
He literally made his entire youtube around the idea of soloing tide games and showing people how to do it.
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Nah psyker is fine. If you’re min maxing they are boring. Try some other weapons.
I use voidstrike and dueling sword Mk V and it’s a blast. I’m plenty useful. If you think BB is useless you’re just not really using it right or your build isn’t set up for it.
I realise it, but people play Psyker on Heresy and Damnation alike, and whilst it isn’t as verestile as veteran in terms of builds or nowhere as tanky as the frontliners, you can really make it work. People in this thread make it work. I don’t like the BB damage scaling (or lack of it…) at higjer difficulties myself, but BB is a tiny part of what psyker can do. With right gear, stats, talents and blessings you can make it easily a CC or AOE damage monster.