Psyker unrewarding to play

This person gets it.

I swear most “psyker players” complaining about BB being weak on Heresy don’t actually play regularly on Heresy, they are just repeating someone else’s false talking points.

BB is incredibly useful on Heresy in a great number of situations, let alone the synergies using it provides to gain a warp charge, even against trash units.

That video is great. That’s basically how I play psyker:

  • aggressively and in the front.
  • BB is huge for damaging and opening up heavies
  • special force sword attack for killing most every elite/special quickly
  • quick switching to staves for stagger/CC (I run void staff for crazy headshots and ranged stagger)
  • deflector for closing distance and staying alive on the open
  • proactive and regular use of the ult to super charge BB
  • force sword push attacks knocking over everything outside of a bulkwark on one shove

It’s a freaking FUN and poweful build/plays toy with an answer for every situation.

Psykers complaining have convinced themselves the psyker is supposed to be played a certain way, which is not a way that the class is really setup for IMHO.

Doesnt work on enemies that are actually behind cover and then the BB itself takes 2.2 sec or so (which you can spend behind cover, which is nice) while killing the target by shooting it, can be done with a single headshot most of the time (all gunners).

If the enemy is behind a net structure or anything that covers the torso entirely, you can not lock on with BB. Seeing only the head, legs or arms, or seeing the entire enemy through a net, will not allow BB to lock it.

But in all of these cases, a gun has no problems.

Have to agree with you on the blaze lvl 30 talent when used with 6 warpcharges. It is massively underestimated by many. Although it would definitely be nice to get a buff to the warpcharge economy and to BB.

True and yet I never stated that. I also said (emphasis on the last sentence):

The reason why I single out BB as my issue with the class, is that the class apart from it is relatively fine (Trauma Staff is pretty bad, but we ain’t talking weapons here).
You yourself even said the following:

I do not even have a problem with its damage scaling, just that it deals all its damage at the end and thereby causing frustration when someone else pops your target. This is way easier to fix without screwing balance than damage scaling.

So get of your high horse with

as if you just made a point.

If I could make one tweak to BB, it would be to have the BB target nearly immediately be stunned by the effect - even the bigger specials. This would give it a lot more use to the team even you didn’t fully kill it with the BB, because it would be staggered/stunned and easy pickings. Basically like sister of thorn briar staff special attack.

It had that kind of stun in the closed beta and that was really really strong.

They just need to rework the Psyker’s feats. Right now the Psyker is in a situation where something like 80% of their feats focus on 20% of the gameplay.

I have 4 class at 30 and Psyker is my least favorite.
It’s not like they aren’t viable on 4 or 5, but the viable build is very limited and not fun.
As someone previously said, basically Psyker is a surge staff with legs.
And even with a surge staff, the things you can do are still limited, and heavily rely on your teammates.

I wonder how Psyker mains deals with the most dangerous enemies on 4/5, the shooters.

Most of the time when I play Psyker on Heresy I feel like playing a downgraded Zealot or Veteran, who does nothing special than the other 2, but with less efficiency.

I don’t really have a problem with BB though, sure it’s rarely impactful but it’s very satisfying to snap someone’s head, a fun party trick I’d say~

Well I play Voidstrike most of the time and use the low charged right click to cc spread out ranged threats, higher charge for kill/hordes and if I want to get rid of some annoying ones I’ll pop ult with kinetic barrage.
Surge is pure cc and mostly mid range. Voidstrike less cc, better damage and full range.
I guess you can play Psyker with a gun, but then you are really not fullfilling a niche in my book.

Psyker has best cc in the game and is very flexible - albeit a bit squishy without deflector Force Sword.

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lets not forget the bolter that the psyker cant obtain out dmg brain burst by a mile and by 2 if its a veteran using it.
the warp stacks are useless and 2 out of 3 of the level 30 feats are counter productive because the consume them…
Soulblaze is useless 2 stacks only kills tier 1 enemies you need 3 -4 for tier 3 while the wrack and Ruin only applies 2 and is buggy as all hell. And lets not forget the blessings on weapons that makes a CRIT apply 1-2…
All level 20 perks are useless.

Zealot or Vetaran with Bolter kills all the elites and Ogryns before you can even use you Brain Burst
Force Blade can be interupted and is only single target which makes it useless against monstorities.
the only usefull staffes are the Surge and Flame staff, void is only good on tier 3 and bellow useless after.
And lets not forget that on of the psykers level 30 feats is a thing that Ogryn gets as baseline ptretty much…
also Soul Blaze is useless after tier 1

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Apparently you didn’t read the thread then.

Oh lord… i thought it was bad enough with the “BB is totally useless in 4/5” crowd now people are going to try and claim soublaze is useless as well…

eh… did you mean deflector force sword?
I tried that actually, not useful at all.
In the end I always fall back to BB behind cover, lol
Voidstrike sounds more like an option to me, at least better than just surge staff all day

As someone who enjoys Psyker the most out of 4 classes, I blast them out of cover with pre-charged voidstaff. It’s a railgun with splash damage and decent penetration. When a horde comes, it’s my time to shine, AOE, mass stagger, suppression and pen. Eventually I use the ulti to deal with pulled elite ambiance or burn them all with the blaze (all depending on the final talent I use at that time). What else could I want?

soul blaze max stacks 10 and you can reliably only apply 4-5 stacks that doesnt even kill mobs on tier 5 its only usefulness is the short CC when applied so yes USELESS.
Flame staff is the roided up version. Also lets not forget there are melee weapons that apply bleed on hit and ogryn on heavy attack hell Ogryns charge can apply 3 bleed stacks per enemy hit with their charge which does the same dmg as 3 stacks of SoulBlaze and BullCharge doesnt consume stacks for more stacks plus if you have half a brain you run it with the perks that gives 10% dmg reduction per enemy with bleed in melee range which or Ogryn is freaking huge.

Summary yes SOUL Blaze is useless it’s application has drawbacks while dleed only has pros and bleed is easier to apply and supports both Zealot and Ogryn.
Psyker would gain more is you replace Soul Blaze with bleed…

why does my staff charge reset randomly?
psyker is hard to play

and some of us love it for this.

There is one thing a Psyker can’t do. A Psyker can’t seem to complete the Penance for maintaining max warp charge for 5 consecutive minutes. I’ve tried multiple times without success. Players to include BOTs keep killing everything before BB pops the pimple. I’ve gone as far as 2 and a half minutes tops, but never closer than that. These Penances need to be toned down. I’m losing interest very fast in playing my Psyker, and the Pysker is my favorite class so far.

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facepalm
the class actually seems broken to me