Title. None of the other classes have HARD skill locks (e.g. It is actually impossible to take One with the Warp with Prescience or Wildfire with Assail)! [Edit: As AC3NATOR pointed out, even worse is that you cannot freely mix all Auras and Abilities together, such as Prescience with Venting Shriek.]
While other classes are limited by points, Psyker is the only one with the limits imposed by the routes in the skill tree [Edit:Ogryn has this problem too but at a much more minor scale] This seems to be the opposite of the devsâ concept, as I recall them calling Psyker the âmost tinkerableâ class in one of the blog posts about the Class Overhaul.
Hard agree, although I believe that the Ogryn has some problems with grenades and a few feats, such as not being able to pick damage increase to whole party to enemies hit by you if you take rocks, but nothing as major as not being able to choose any aura with any ultimate, since psyker cannot take venting shriek with prescience or kinetic presence and scrierâs gaze.
Agreed, the Psykerâs skill tree leaves a lot to be desired.
Not being able to freely mix and match skills sucks.
Brain Burst is simply a bad ability because it doesnât actually work as a big single target nuke that you use to bring down bosses and big enemies.
Warp Charges are a crappy system, because if you want to keep the passive benefits from having a stack of warp charges you canât use your ability anymore, so they actively encourage you to use less of your kit, not more.
None of the Blitzes you can pick actually fill the role of a powerful âsometimesâ ability, despite the fact that with Assail they added the ability for psyker blitzes to have ammo.
There are so many things that are just not great about the class.
this reminds me of old arguments back in 2022.
It would be op if you could oneshot bigger targets with a single pop on Damnation or higher.
Brain Burst is a great ability if you use specific weapons and have Kinetic Flayer.
Warp charges is debatable i preferred Empowered Psionics for most builds.
Psyker is the class with highest skill cieling imho, it could be buffed but i like it where it is also.
And a higher expectation from its players in general.
Itâs always âpsyker is the weakest classâ, âsoulblaze is the worstâ, âgunpsyker is the worstâ, âbrainburst is the worstâ, or âdisrupt destiny is the worstâ until people get their uncanny strike swords, warp flurry staves, and columbus gun.
I donât think psyker needs any help offensively. Itâs defensive options compared to other classes though, it falls behind by a large margin. As someone who plays all 4 classes, Iâm of the opinion most classes are in a pretty comparable spot offensively. In terms of survivability and tankiness though, i gotta give it to Ogryn, then zealot, then vet, then waaaaaay down at the bottom⌠Psyker.
Our filler nodes compared to the other classes are real sad. And like the OP said, we have the hardest time cherry picking what we want from our spec tree.
Will also just bump this because holy heck as one who jumps between all the classes, Psyker just feels so stiffing with itâs tree now especially after seeing the god rework on veteran. Going from âohh gosh I donât know what to choose!â to âI mean, I GUESsss Iâll pick up this? cause I want to use this but likeâŚI canât go and grab this so uhhâŚthis?â. just is so bad.
Canât use Prescience with Venting Shriek, canât use Gaze (if, for some reason Iâd want to) with Kinetic, canât run anticipation without running Prescience, which in turn canât be run with Venting Shriek!
Like the amount of ânoâ on that class can just go on and on and on, and it shoe horns you into like, 3 things you can do with any amount of effectiveness. Feels real bad.
I should note that I donât even think that Psyker is all that weak, is just that itâs not as fun and varied as it should be. Too few options, and many of those are just meh as well.
If we talk about effectiveness, it really seems that Psyker also has some slightly overtuned options like Assail, Trauma staff and Voidstrike staff. I just want all the options to be comparably powerful, fun and interesting.
Also there are just plainly broken mechanics, like Assail inheriting Rending from an Uncanny Strike melee weapon. Itâs clearly not intended and makes the best Blitz even more powerful.
Whaatt noooo this cannot possible be unintended, its secret high skill big iq tech for vermintide 2 bounty hunter mains.
Yeah, either give other blitzes the same benefit in some form, or axe this. But then you would need to axe (as in remove) zealotâs prayer+skullcrusher blessing combo, zealot uncanny strike knife + throwing knife combo, guardsman combos concerning frag bleed damage and weapons increasing damage, &c. &c.