survivalist is so good and its a shame that the best aura and best nade are both on the same side of the tree away from the other nades. moving survivalist would help make the other nades a bit more viable by saving some talent points.
buff krak by giving it +1 amount and make smoke force gunners/ stalkers to stop shooting. shouldn’t affect reapers or snipers tho. a radius increase would be nice too.
Sirvivalist honestly needs another nerf (say only activates on ranged gun kills) but moving it doesn’t fix the core problem of the others being throw away nodes
+1 krak is something I’d fully endorse but smokes already stop gunners but doesn’t feel like that since it’s radius is so small. I think a good offset would be to have ally gun shots through it shorten the time giving reason to not just mindlessly shoot through it at all times
how about 10 seconds cooldown, that sounds fun
No, the main problem with it currently is melee kills activate it giving back free ammo effectively giving infinite ammo, if it only activates on ranged kills then it makes it harder to abuse
what if there is a psyker in the team, that burn everyone and you keep getting that annoying +1 every once in a while
Can’t you see how silly you cultists has become, when psykers yield 2 million damage never touching their melee and all you can think is to bash on that dead horse of survivalist
It would seem the better answer would be fixing the other grenades if that’s the problem, rather than swapping Survivalist.
Then don’t have psykers staves activate it, only things that should activivate survialist should be the stuff that benifits it
No one brought up Psyker but I think they should be nerfed too if that’s what you’re wondering
i’ve been playing plasma gun on my vet in the last few days and i felt miserable, MISERABLE
60% of my damage was from my melee, and 60% of my ranged damage came from frag grenades spam
i’m mad, i’m so mad, even if i did well in the score, just because i’m sick enough to pull trough being a melee dude on a squeeshy class, but after draining the whole map off ammo pickups, every other team mate were leaving me their ammo to ludicrous points, and all my ranged damage came from frag grenades
and i was keep tagging the big ammo bags to the rumbler ogryns that didn’t realized he was doing better ranged damage than me hence deserving those pickups more which infuriated me in the process
and when i go on the forum what do i see, survivalist still the best aura in the game please nerf
you guys are mental and driving me mental
why? it doesn’t give any power increase
I don’t even pick it.
It may be overestimated.
you should pick it, just because fire team does nothing, that 5% is additive it doesn’t apply to the base damage, its a blimp among all the other buffs
but the fact that the other 2 are worse it doesn’t mean current survivalist is good
Even if u have a point survivalist is still objectively one of the most powerful perks by vurtue of givng free ammo to the whole team on specialist or elite kill, including melee kills. If u wanna talk about psyker being op then u should consider how they’re still broken in a gun build and how a vet survivalist minimizes that play styles one downside (and considering they have access to recon las that should say something)
Its your only option, if you nerf your only option you are nerfing the class as a whole
I think survivalists problem is still that it scales to give you more ammo the more elites and specials are spawning. Bad design in a game where that’s the primary way devs have to scale the difficulty. It’s still giving as much ammo as 2-3 whole ammo kits to the entire team on Aurics.
Ask yourself this: If he had an aura that said “entire team gets 200%-300% more maximum ammo reserves” would this seem remotely balanced? Yet that’s effectively what survivalist does. In a game focused on attrition of player resources it’s just a bad idea to give out that many.
The other auras are pissboring for sure though (just like most auras in the game to be fair)
I never said the others shouldn’t be buffed so please stop making the assumption that I do, with how often u complain about vet being underpowered and psyker being op I think it’d be best if u make a thread proposing ur ideal changes
Personally I think the current aura buffs should be added to current nodes and they should be dramatically overhauled, one idea I thought would be good was for the right aura to be replaced with +1-2 grenades one for all classes though it’d be in tandom with other changes to the class I’ve been brainstorming on for a thread, if u have any suggestions feel free to offer
we are talking about a class that drain 90% of the pickups to have to rely on its grenades and melee to do proper damage
if you say the other classes are benefitting too much from survivalist you must consider that they would have +90% pickups in the map if the vet wasn’t in their team
I certainly don’t have to pick 90% of the ammo pickups as veteran if I actually use my melee and grenades too, even without survivalist. With survivalist I can play aurics without picking up a single ammo or grenade pickup just fine and do great
fine, vet has one ammo efficent build, how is that better than just bringing a voidstrike or a surge staff, note that i’ve mentioned the worst staves
and most importantly, how is that ammo efficent build overpowered in any way shape or form
so that you leave your team mate ammo?, that is redicolous, if you want to save ammo for your team mates you just bring, again, a psyker, or any other class
yes any other class, for all classes but Vet shooting is an optional
I don’t think he has one ammo efficient build, what I just said is true for most vet builds when I play him. The exception is when I bring an autogun and want to blast away all game long and never use my melee, but there’s nothing wrong with a ranged only playstyle consuming a lot of ammo pickups. If you can play ranged only and never run out of ammo, then ammo as a mechanic is meaningless and might aswell be removed.
