It’s so simple tho
Have map designers make mission like existing ones
Have Jesper work his magic with a new track for the mission
Do this 4 times a year, congrats the community is happy
Chaos Wastes are just expeditions but you don’t even get to start with your weapons you grinded for, have to find random junk.
Most of the game’s updates reek of “we don’t play our game” and “we take feedback from out of touch handpicked redditors”
If they actually listened the priority would have been to fix audio cues and netplay during the last 3 years
When fatshark buffed devil claw to “reinforce its crowd control” 
Not necessarily. If the new game mode is done well and players like it, it actually works well.
- VT2 Weaves and Versus: dead not long after launch for various reasons
- VT2 Chaos Wastes: awesome mode that brought a lot of players back and people still play a lot. For me personally, it also got me playing more regular campaign missions, it’s a lot more fun to go back to them to mix things up
I think the real problem is:
In particular we saw this play out with VT2 Versus. All they had to do was fix the matchmaking and it would probably still be popular. Instead, they just added a new boss and a few (not enough) balance tweaks and then stopped working on it.
If you close with development process management (or any project managment, in fact) you should know about “sunk cost fallacy” - its a cognitive malfuntion when you cant acting correctly coz you spent too much resources for drop project from a board and have a strong feel one next step will change situation.
But it will not.
And you just continue to spent more and more and more.
I have a feel FS in that trap.
They need to stop, close this mode and remake it from anew. But they cant.
The funnest thing here is
“We strive to create a balanced game environment, recognizing that perfect balance in a PvE-focused game may be unattainable and perhaps unnecessary. However, a reasonable level of balance among weapons is essential.”
And then they proceed to make us even stronger and release an incredibly overpowered class and increase enemy spawns further killing the servers and game stability
I am so glad I am not a video game developer. reading the toxic negativity coming from you lot would demotivate me completely. They are trying to make something work, and putting effort into it and you are outright rejecting it. I disagree with you. I think they should spend time on enhancing the mode and in the long run it can be really good. the base isthere.
So, you suggest to praise FS efforts, not result?
Some of the hate spills out after years of giving feedback and seeing no results. This game has potential to be so much better but we constantly see decisions that are bad even from the investors point of view because mode lime expeditions doesn’t satisfy both tryhard and casual playerbase.
I wish I knew how the decision process works in fatshark, but I never will, I will just watch this game become worse and worse product each update as it was the case with warframe.
I seem to remember a dev stating (back when it wasn’t just FS’s social media people posting) that they really had to fight the suits to make changes to the crafting system.
I mean that’s just what happens when you release a product and it misses the mark with your audience.
I get it. but maybe this is the best they can do. Even chaos wastes took years for them to release. I know it seems like a no brainer to release something like it. but maybe there is something they know that we dont. they are not crazy.
Based on what you say, Regardless of how you say it they will do what they have to do anyway, so why be needlessly toxic about it.
trust me, they dont hate money, they dont mind putting in more arbites skins or expand on the game mode. I myself have a problem of them choosing such a broken engine. but it doesnt matter. they are working with what they have. its why we are all here, we love what they do. we do not need to play 3500 hours for thsi game to be worth it. i myself play sometimes everyday for a week, then give it a break for a few months and then come back and binge it again.
its a fun game. but you dont have to play it everyday.
i myself made a post about the new game mode. i have a lot of recommendations. posted here:
but we can be nice about it. they will eventually do what they feel its right. I am certain of it.
the progress is slow, but its there, they are trying to give us what we want. Skiitari is one of such content. expedition is also such case, just needs proper modification.
But that’s the gist of it, people clearly voted for what they want with their attention and time investment and Expedition came out of it dead!
A content starved community walking away from new content in a matter of days and forgetting about it generally speaking indicates that said content is undesirable and unwanted!
No buts or ifs, no spins, no delusion induced notions that we wanted Expeditions and so on. Expeditions are the paragon example of community not wanting something!
And its gonna get worse, because the current mood is F the expeditions, we wont get a new map because of that crap!
Like they did with Mortis?
where’s the toxicity? can you quote the comments with it
it’s starting to be annoying people seeing toxicity where there isn’t and making look like as if the devs were offended by the criticism by the community. when there never been problems with the devs.
the devs stopped talking and interacting to us because of toxicity!!!
as if the devs ever even tried to talk with the community in the first place…
kindly wake up
They’ll eventually learn to be a realist in hoping fatshark will actually do anything consistently good and not just consistently making weird insane nonsensical choices and only do things that actually benefit their games if the community fight tooth and nail them over it for years.
instead of providing constructing criticism - you and the tone of this post is to straight up remove something that fatshark as a whole has been working on it for the last year. A full year of effort and you just straight up tell them delte it, remove it. its dead, insted of actually providing ways to fix it, because this can be very good and very successful if done correctly. so help them, rather than shitting on it the way most of your are.
How is that behaviour not toxic. like you cook a meal for your family, or anyone, – or even lets say you work at a restaurant, and you cook meals, how would you prefer to receive the feedback, the customer standing on his table, screaming this dish is worthless and you should remove it. or rather the guy giving feedback in a constructive format, which ultimately you realize that the person not liking the food does not like ethnic food, so you cant really help that guy, so this does not mean that the dish is bad, maybe needs more spice, or more salt, but the dish is not worthless.
this is how you lot are acting, your are questioning the entire effort, which is wrong, I personally like this more than havok, I stopped playing havok the second i hit 40 and got my cosmetics. but im enjoying this mode more. but it needs a few stuff which i tried to provide in a polite manner in a post of its own.