Playing Darktide on Bazzite, via proton

And I am not getting input lag, for now, and it just seem to be just fine.

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oooh, shall try. bloody microsoft can suck it

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I would give it a go.

and you can dual boot with windows anyway

FATSHARK, make Darktide native to Linux, the game runs so much than on Windows, even with the compatibility layer.

I can actually get into customize cosmetics, without my PC actually throwing a fit and lagging on 1fps whilst everything loads in. On Linux? What is lag it asks. It is night and day.

And Windows is utter gabage.

I really hope Linux gaming explodes enough for Microsoft to have some real competition in home use space. Sadly compatibility issues and lack of real investment won’t help slow adoption rates.

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Playing DT on Kubuntu 24.04 via Proton Hotfix on a AMD Radeon RX 7600 for over a year without any problems that I could attribute to Linux – except for a known issue of crashes with Texture Quality higher than Medium which I don’t know if it’s still relevant today. I also don’t notice any input lag, as far as my middle-aged senses could notice anyway. :wink:

Besides, I’m using Linux as my main OS for over 18 years by now, and I can highly recommend it to anyone who a) is willing to learn a new OS, b) isn’t dependent on any Windows-only hardware or software like MS Office, Photoshop etc. and c) doesn’t play games with kernel level anticheat like Vanguard.

edit: Regarding hardware, most of it will run ootb because the drivers will already be in the Linux kernel, and as a Linux user you learn over time to only buy hardware that is known to run on Linux, so it’ll only be an issue, if ever, up until you’ll buy new hardware. :slight_smile:

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This is my main advice for anyone willing to try Linux: Keep your familiar OS around as a fallback or even home to return to in case you discover that Linux isn’t your thing in the end – which would be completely fine by the way. Not everything is equally useful for everyone. It’s the attempt that matters.

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Yeah, I am using bazzite and all I can say is, it’s so much better than windows. As I said before, on windows when I used to open up cosmetics or load into a map, it used to lag crazy. The game would literally pause for 5-10 seconds as assets would load in, and the who system ground to a halt.

Now, it is smooooth.

the only Issue I had, was with just one run when for some reason, the game bugged and fps was locked to 30 or less. But one the run had finished, it went back to normal. Other than that everything has been sweet.

Okay, I am running at 1 or 2 frames slower, but the benefits of having a massive lag reduction, swapping weapons that actually works…

And not have windows, force updates on you that you don’t want, invade your privacy, load your machine up with bloat, and generally give you a slop OS is worth it.

Hate Microsoft, absolute scum company… And not forgetting bricking Mixed Reality Portal VR headsets, when they stopped support mixed reality and couldn’t be bother to at least supply the drivers so people can continue to use their hardware.

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I used Ubuntu for a bit, maybe 15 years ago, but then switched back to Windows because gaming was (is) my primary use for my PC, and there was always some fiddling to get the games I wanted to play to work, as well as the EAC issue.

After reading your message here, I got interested (again) and looked for some videos on Bazzite.

Based on Fedora (I’ve been hyped for SteamOS for a very long time now). Looks really cool.

My concern is, are there any major drawbacks to migrating from Windows 11 to Bazzite?

I’m using an RTX 3060 with an i5-13400f processor, 16GB of RAM, and a 4TB nVme m.2 SSD.

It’s not a supercomputer, but it works well for me.

The only reason I’m not using Linux is gaming support, but if that’s mostly fixed now (thanks Steam), I’d like to jump back on.

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@Jacek

I would check specific game cases.

For Nvidia here is example where Linux Fedora it runs worse and he uses Darktide. (He is using RTX3090)

In other games anti-cheat ā€œmayā€ be issue with Linux depending on online game.

Shame no benchmark tool in Darktide. Guess you’ll have to test by playing.

I wouldn’t go ahead and start doing dual boot/partition. Just grab any old SATA SSD and stick Fedora Linux on it.

I suspect for Nvidia, better to stick to Windows - for Darktide.

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It’s WAY better than it used to be, but I keep running into issues when I try to make the switch. Don’t get me wrong, I run Linux on every computer I own, except my gaming computers. Just little things keep getting in the way. Since I already have Linux on all my other systems, it’s easier for me to ignore the horrible state of privacy windows on computers I only play games on. I do try periodically to make the switch, but again, I run into issues that are more annoying to me than just doing windows on my gaming computers.

Linux tends to have more issues on the bleeding edge. I ran into a bunch of issues just after I got my 5080. Which is to be expected since even the windows drivers Nvidia was cranking out were trash.

Most recent example, Linux is incapable of 4k120 at full color depth on an AMD GPU over HDMI. It’s a legal thing, not a technical thing. So the computer that is hooked up to my hdmi only TV is Windows. I don’t want to hobble my TV for everyone in the house just because I want to be a Linux purist.

Since you do not have ā€˜bleeding edge’ hardware, you should be in a much better state for trying Linux. In general AMD GPUs do tend to work better with Linux than Nvidia but a 3060 should be well supported by now. However, you may want to invest in a 1 TB NVME drive to keep stuff separate.

Next time you do an upgrade, see if you can get 2 complete systems out of it and try using Linux on the older hardware full time. It’s nice to have an OS that respects you as a person and not as a product to squeeze every last ounce of data out of.

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So I was impulsive (common me) and formatted my Windows 11 SSD and jumped straight on Bazzite, and the performance of Darktide is far superior to that of Windows! (Clean install Windows included).

My only nitpick is that it still feels like Linux expects the user to be interested in fixing stuff when issues happen, and the issues I’m referring to are simple ones that either function out of the box in Windows or are simply solved.

Fortunately for me, my google-fu is rather good, but it’s one of those things that I had hoped would have been resolved by 2025.

I’m sticking with Bazzite because I enjoy what I’ve seen so far!

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I am lucky I have a spare ssd and can dual boot, so got the best of both worlds. Yeah, it’s true you need to be a little tech savvy to get the most out of it, but the rewards in the end are amazing.

Okay you lose out on a few things, the Steam OS, Bazzite are looking to be the way forward.

Got stalker 2 running on it, SCP 5K, and of course Darktide.

Which I find it funny that whilst I have been running Bazzite, my mate hasn’t dropped once, and I am not thinking that it was Microshite all along that DC’ing my mate… specifically my install.

So it makes you wonder.

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I would also add for anyone downloading BAZZITE.

Read the download section very carefully.

I wished I had.

When you download… make sure too

  1. download the one for your GPU, yes nVdia has specific one.

  2. If you want to boot into steam big screen, select ā€œYesā€ for steam gaming mode (i.e. big screen) or ā€œNoā€ for the normal desktop

and use rufus to create a bootable usb

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That’s what I meant with no issues that I could attribute to Linux. My group of regulars all play on Windows and they all have strange effects or crashes from time to time, neither significantly more or less than me, so I mostly attribute mine to the game itself rather than my OS. :person_shrugging:

And not have windows, force updates on you that you don’t want, invade your privacy, load your machine up with bloat, and generally give you a slop OS is worth it.

Same here. One of the first things I learned to love back in December 2006 when Ubuntu made me leave Windows after two weeks of testing was the trust I suddenly felt in my OS – just like it should be. It wouldn’t spy on my for its corporate masters, and I was its lord and master who it would happily kill itself for on command. Since then, Windows only eked out a niche existence as my gaming system, and even that ended last spring.

Another early delight was the lightning speed that any Linux desktop would boot and be immediately usable, not like every Windows version from 95 to 10 that I used who faked being finished booting by showing me the desktop while the hard drive was still loading for minutes until it finally stopped – on the same hardware! This is another thing I came to love in Linux: its honesty.

Well, with great power comes great responsibility. :wink: That’s why I mentioned earlier that someone willing to try Linux should also be willing to learn. While most modern OS’ look and feel similar, they can be very different under the hood. I sometimes compare it to moving to another country with a different language and culture. While similar at first glance, there can be many snares and sandtraps to fall into.

It also depends heavily on someone’s expectations and needs. Having used Windows from 95 up to 10, there are countless details that modern Linux desktops do so much better IMHO than Windows, and I have seen many things that Linux had years before Windows finally adopted them, like a manually sortable taskbar or mouse scrolling in inactive windows.

All that said, every OS has its faults and benefits. The main difference for me between Linux and Windows is that many of Linux’ shortcomings stem from technical or legal reasons that I can understand or even respect, or just because its niche market share, while many my gripes with Windows stem from arbitrary decisions by Microsoft and its patronizing attitude towards its users. (Of course not true in every instance, just my overall impression over three decades as one of them.)

Kudos for your spirit of adventure, have fun exploring terra nova! :ship:

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Maybe interesting for some here: A first impression video about Bazzite by a tech Youtuber with no prior Linux knowledge (and his obligatory Linux geek friend :nerd_face: ).

One warning, though: At the end, they show how to disable updates. DO NOT DO THIS. Like every software, Linux needs to be updated regularly to fix bugs and security vulnerabilities. I’d even recommend to set it to automatic if possible (I have no experience with Bazzite) to get security updates as soon as possible.

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Typically it is AMD GPUs that benefit from Linux.

Unusual in the case above it benefits for Nvidia, as they tend to perform worse in Linux. Maybe on older hardware, the benefit of lower background OS resource usage outpaces Nvidia’s driver overhead.

Apex Legends banned Linux last year, a game I still play. Battlefield 2042, Rainbow Six Siege I play. Not because of Linux, but because dev EAC support.

I wouldn’t blanket jump to Linux until check compatibility with online games especially PvP ones. So maybe on 2nd drive install instead.

Valorant anti-cheat is also windows only.

Escape from Tarkov - BattlEye anticheat doesn’t work in Linux (for online play, offline mods work). Another game I play.

It’s few PvP games, the really competitive ones.

If don’t play such games, no problem.

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I’m hitting peak frustration/exhaustion with windows.

How the hell they turned an operating system into a pop-up ad paid for with data harvesting is beyond me.

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Ive been a linux/windows dual-boot user for many years now, but only recently I tested out Darktide on linux. For the record, I have an RTX 3080 and not an AMD card.

In my experience, Darktide consistently gets 15-20% worse performance in Proton than Windows 11 native DX12 (having tried proton-ge, proton experimental, proton 9.* and proton-cachyos), and this is consistent across multiple distros (Ubuntu, popOS, Bazzite, CachyOS) and independently of display servers (X11 vs Wayland, although X11 seems to take a slight additional performance hit)

I think this is probably due to the dx12 → vulkan translation, there’s a known performance drop on NVIDIA cards: Link.

Weirdly enough, theres very few people talking about this on ProtonDB. Seems like people arent really comparing windows vs linux performance on the Darktide protonDB board.

In general, the above posters are right: if you have an NVIDIA card, you should expect an overall performance drop compared to windows, Darktide is no exception.

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there is more to it then that tbh. Getting US owned OS off systems is becoming a real priority. I’d expect win10 support ending will really push a lot of people to linux, there is no way I would trust a US owned OS for financial transactions now.