And man did I mist a lot of replies, 49 replies, but I will leave this passage from a short story I think where a Female Ogryn was indeed seen in one of the books, not sure if I shared this bit already… 9_e
-Spark of Revolution-
Setting down the bucket, Breaker looked up at the ogryn standing over him. She was called Pulley, just out of the juvehalls where the young ogryns worked with the smaller equipment. A bruise mottled half of Pulley’s face. Many of the ogryns bore marks like that now.
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‘Go,’ Breaker Brass said, dropping his hand. When she started to turn, he punched her in the shoulder, rocking her a little. ‘Good shift, good worker.’
Pulley looked back at him, and through the strands of wiry red hair that had escaped her tight braids Breaker could see that her eyes had lit a little at the compliment. She strode away, not as slumped, and Breaker Brass stomped into the container she’d led him to. And stopped, staring.
I go by the book, I go by the lore, I fill in blanks that fits within the universe, and I don’t even wanna know where you got the idea for furries too, I know there is a bit of a beastman race, but again, I go by the books, and from what I can understand from “Only War”, you create a character, and a partner with them, if your main dies, you switch to your partner as your new main.
For all things we know, these are just Tales from the Warp, tales that could have happened, or small battles that are never recorder, only time anything like that has ever become canon was from a Tournament GW hosted, I forget which, but it was a big deal taking back this planet… 9_e
And sometimes if they are recorded they only talk about the space marines and the guardsmen get nary a mention in the glorification of the angels of death.
I think the imperium would very much care about 500kg ogryns rioting all over. In the first place I don’t recall the imperium every pushing the issue so I’d assume they have enough ogryns from those planets. I think you could easily say there’s rationally no reason they would force the issue.
More importantly though and as I already said there is no reason to uniformize every race/faction in the game. I think it’s an interesting lore point that they keep the women protected on their home planets.
They have screwed over folks with destroy-a-planet button, the inqusitors. They are making serfs from entire societies, even those with atomic bombs. They are screwing around with abhorent xenos.
A few of arguably strong, but not at all smart or organized soldiers, won’t stop Imperials from doing anything.
I can’t see what’s so interesing about it. It’s not subertive, neither original, nor avanguarde. It’s plain boring cliché.
Moreover, it is kinda unrealistic given imperial standards of not caring when collecting thies.
Oh, and I don’t think ogryns are ruling themselfs, so probably they have no saying about anything that happens to them.
I think that it is fairly uncommon and reminds me of tolkien dwarves or warcraft ogres. It’s not really a cliche in the meaning of the word. I wasn’t saying it’s groundbreaking, just that it’s interesting and part of what sets Ogryns apart.
As for what’s realistic for the imperium to do, you have literal first party sources telling you that they collect only male Ogryns. It seems like something the imperium does, considering they actually do it. There’s other instances of the Imperium respecting what a planets local populace wants or believes, they allow religious freedom too for example (so long as their central figure of worship is the Emperor in the end)
you’re too short sighted. ogryn are (ab)human in nature, the women would have periods. there’s no reason to recruit ogryn women if you can leave them out and not have to bother with material support to keep them functioning during their period. men are just better built for being sent to die in war.
He made an ogryn that became a “high level leader” of the Imperium and seemed to cite his campaign to suggest that it is possible in the main lore. It is certainly more tame than the funny, golden-oldie 1d4chan stories I posted but just about as plausible. It might be, at most, a slight false equivalency (slight) in terms of comparisons but it is certainly not a strawman since I am directly countering his point.
Also, it’s unfortunate you haven’t been with the fandom long enough to have come across those stories before. There’s plenty more where they came from as anyone who has played under a weirdo GM can profess (one of mine had a thing about killing off redheads in horrible ways; if he introduced a redhead NPC we knew her time was coming fast). May I also suggest the more ordinary, less-fetishized Gav & Bob, and the narrative campaigns of The Guy Who Cried Grendel (that Darktide itself possibly references), and the All Guardsmen Party.
It’s just making every thing a grey boring sludge where nothing is different. What’s the point in lore, if lore doesn’t matter and if nothing can be different or unique? because everything need to represent everything?
What would be the point of the sisters of battle if you made 50% of the force men? They lose their uniqueness as a faction. The same would go for the sisters of silence.
Would you be happy if they added men to the sisters of battle? I wouldn’t
