I personally think from a storytelling/setting perspective it makes them unique. I think not everything needs to be standardized.
A lot of stories and settings would be very boring if you constantly acted upon the impulse of “but technically, it could be totally fair and uniform with everything else, right?”, so even if it would totally be a fair statement to say that there would logically be ogryn planets where the females aren’t as protected, I think it’s interesting for them to be protective of them and for them to only send out the men. It adds character and a unique spin.
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That is what they are doing?
Maybe - I always was under impression the film tried to parody fascism by portraiing a glamour-dystopia and ended up failing at many levels as the society is in many ways more utopian then dystopian. Of course the movie could actually try to glorify militarism and authoritarian regimes - but in that case it would fail on other levels as there are elements which are clear criticism.
Feel free to enlighten me - what did I not get?
I don’t say people like the change - I say most warhammer fans I talked to and the content creators I follow don’t care. I mean most retcons are disliked - I don’t like retcons (there might be exceptions but I don’t remember any right now).
What I seriously simply fail to understand - what makes this retcon of warhammer lore worse then all the others?
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Precisely.
I look at 40k as a Your Dudes hobby. The Imperium and the setting in general are sprawling enough you can do whatever you want.
I like making the models, so I bought some, painted them in a color scheme I liked, and made up a custom Forge World to explain the stuff I’m gonna build and what I’m not buying.
There are some works where retcons matter.
40k is not one of those.
Just…go have fun. Don’t let some YouTube grifter make you angry about the random BS GW makes up for whatever they think will make models sell.
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Yes the TV series, which is more than like going to flop now and there are rumours that Cavill is thinking of leaving as it is another one that doesn’t respect the lore. Hence Amazon forcing the change on Custodies, because Amazon want women ordering Space Marine captains around, coz girl boss.
Starship Troopers was satire and having a massive dig at America more than anything, it was parodying America, and the American dream. Capitalism, news…
I haven’t watched it for years, but I distinctly got the impression it wasn’t having a dig at Fascism.
There’s a difference between adding to the lore and fleshing it out, which has what has happened for the last 30-40 years, and lying it has always been the case. If you have to lie about something then you know something is wrong. Especially when a change is not needed.
People hate changes in lore, look at Sylvester Stallones Judge Dread, flopped massively because he took his mask off, Judge Dread never does that, it just spat in the face of the fans who had brought the comics for decades.
If you want a successful franchise don’t F with the lore.
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To which I haven’t seen anything reliable yet - it all boils down to one youtuber (The ArchCast) having heard by “some unidentified Amazon insider” that Amazon enforced this and that Henry Cavill might leave the show because of that. This original “news” have then been echoed around and repeated in certain social media bubbles - but there has not been any other source for either of these claims. I don’t know if that Youtuber is trustworthy or not - but since he takes a clear political stance in his video I’ll wait for confirmation before I worry.
(As in I’m still looking forward to that show)
Furthermore - if Amazon wanted a badass woman in power armor ordering space marines captains around they could use female inquisitors.
I gave numerous examples where they changed other factions lore far more drastical then this. Not just fleshing out - changing. Orks used to procreate like any other species - now they are violent fungus (just to add one more)
“Since the creation of the Imperial Guard the Rogal Dorn Main Battle Tank has always been the backbone of their armored forces” - is that a lie to? If so - why isn’t that a problem and female costodes are?
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thats kinda the point of propoganda, which I think you may have fell for.
Yes it has elments in its sociaty that are ideal, and on the surface it seems okay.
But when you look back on it with experiance and knowladge of the other cultures today you see the underlying issues it intentionally ignores, because propoganda shows you the shiney parts… dont think about the little details.
Like the fact a meteor got past the anti meteor defence system… or how that created the perfect motivation to drive up recruitment.
and how did the bugs fire a rock roughly 20’000 years away from earth and land a perfect strike? and that thing wasn’t going that fast…
Or how by the end of the film the new recruits look barely in their pre-teens.
I love starship troopers to bits. So I know it aint a paradise.
same as 40k
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You put it well @Mayson, probably better than I ever could.
I’m recently started drawing the line at creators/story writers actively turning on their core audience, in forms of hatred which quickly turned into “do-not-buy” for a lot of games…
That and seeing random racial representation that makes 0 sense. Random black elf can break my suspension disbelief in like 1 second. Grow a pair and make them desert elves or something sheesh. I just don’t get what’s up with that.
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I remember that being a thing in 2nd/3rd Edition from the 90’s. If it was massive a change, it was soon after rogue trader came out and when they started really fleshing the factions out.
end of the day, more head options for my minis.
As much as I loath painting skintones, its those little touches that give the uniformity more life. and more tones makes the little minis pop out.
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No, it’s the Leman Russ and always has been.
“The Leman Russ Battle Tank is the primary main battle tank of the Astra Militarum, and is also the most widely deployed tank in the Imperium.”
Afraid I can’t link/cite; just what was told to me when I asked ages ago. 
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I play Admech so I wouldn’t know - the only skin that appears I always paint with a Wraithbone-white based mix so it looks all corpse-y.
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You can get a simaler vibe with darker skin tones useing ashy colours to add a little veriaty.
washed out colours are usually the way to go with servitor skin I found.
Though some still have normal tones so some of those could also add.
Sorry, you didn’t ask. I just enjoy talking about folks lovely painting works.
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You heard me.
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they’re not, but when you crank out a few thousand unstable, barely intilligent ogryn you don’t bother with teaching them about genders they’re not going to be meeting before sending them to die in forever war.
canonically, the handful of ogryn that are cloned in vats don’t know what gender is (among other things)
Then let me reword it:
“In regard of Rogal Dorn Battle Tanks, there have always been Rogal Dorn Battle Tanks, ever since the the first Regiments of the Astra Militarum were tithed.”
The argument stands - their existence was retconned. They are no new design and no new STC was found - they were always there. We just happen to never have come across them yet. Same with female Custodians.
I still don’t get why one thing is ok and the other isn’t.
As in they are biological male but have no psychological concept of what the difference between male and female is because it never mattered? That would make sense.
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GW have always added variants to patterns. But once again, they have added to the lore.
Just as the Baneblade, Stormblade and Shadowsword were the three original Super heavy tanks.
Even the Titans have had a fair few additions over the years.
But these have all be additions to the lore, not whole scale retcon.
Even back in the very early 90’s when I was playing on a 8ft by 5ft table, when the codexs were first used, it stated that different guard armies, including space marines had slight varients on pattern design.
They are more than likely clones if they are mass produced, which means they probably do have a sex, which is why they all sound like males. And, if you were going to clone a species for war, you would pick the stronger sex as you would have naturally stronger base to start with.
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I’m gonna see about finding the TTRPG Book, Warhammer 40K “Only War”, because it allows you to create your own “Guardsmen” and such, and I found a video where someone created “Big Bad Bob” The Ogryn, a super smart Ogryn that became a high level leader in the imperium.
So if you can create any Guardsmen, from Human, to Abhuman, Ratling, Ogryn, you name it, Female Ogryn would be on the table too (especially giving her a reason to be a guardsmen while sticking to lore too), I found a picture of a Female Catachan Jungle Fighter in one of the pictures from the expansion books online too (took screenshots too) lol XD
The Books online cost alot because they were discontinued, but I still wanna get my hands on one when I head out for the city in a few months, gonna get guardsmen while I’m out there too… as well as greenstuff, and other things as well… 9_e