Plasma gun needs to be readjusted

No, i’m not gonna howl about how OP it is. Just because plasma gun is bad. Bad and inherently misrepresented.

It’s a tank-killing gun with many fire restrictions. It clearly was designed(Even in-game) to one-two shot everything that is not ogryn-sized enemy, and blast everything is can’t kill with light taps with charged shots.

And yet somehow it does worse job at killing crusher than recon lasgun, stub revolver of helbore lasgun. 2 shots to kill gunners withouf perks, 3-4 shots to kill mutants, 2-3 to kill ragers…
It’s just won’t go. And somehow it has infinite cleave which is not something plasma guns are famous for. Infinite cleave can be spared on for hellgun.

So basically plasma needs a bit of adjustment, to reduce its cleave (To pen 5 enemies MAX.) and pump the raw damage up to make it basically ranged thunder hammer because it whould be it.

Or, at least, we need a different plasma mark that will do something like this.

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Sounds good to me

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Make normal shots blow you up if you keep shooting at 100%, like the psyker staffs. That would make it more fair.

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It is already unfair to its user. It can’t be more fair to everyone else. It’s just double standarts.

Being constantly outdamaged by every other weapon while fighting bosses while deazling with lond reload and overheat is too much for weapon that is only effective versus hordes on choke-points

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Yeah, the long reload. I also like how my weapon has half of its ammo supply already loaded in the current charge…

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Considering it’s a near-must for the highest level play, I don’t think we can say it’s a bad weapon by any stretch.

I wouldn’t mind it getting some changes; reduced cleave, especially on lights, would be very reasonable.

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This must be a joke, because plasma needs to hit weakspots to have somewhat playable breakpoints. While having the same breakpoints as infantry lasgun, while having all the disadvantages.

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I agree with one thing. The weapon has too much cleave. It should be the choice for killing big, armoured targets, not let me shoot in the general direction of mixed horde and call it gaming.

Also yes, plasma is too safe to use. This was one iconic weapon I actually looked forward to since the first Darktide guard only trailer. I cannot really make myself to use it.

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With right perks and talents, you can 1 tap gunners and ragers to the head.
All good.

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If such powerful weapon needs to have perks, blessings and talengs to oneshot such basic enemies as gunners and ragers - it’s a weak gun. Because these breakpoint are similar if not worse to lasgun’s.

I understand that most people here are probably some jealous zealots, but still

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But you can hit your target through a bunch of trash that is standing in the way.
Or shoot a bunch of elites at once.
It is a trade off.

If it did not require at least a few perks/talents and some skill to hit heads, it would just be a weapon for stupid spammers that have absolutely no skill.

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A few? I need entire build + perks + blessing just to make it somewhat usable. Meanwhile lasgun need just two blessings and 2-3 talents.

Nothing to add here.

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Not worth it at all

That is strange, because those are the exact reasons for some people to claim that the plasma gun is overpowered.

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These people are trolls or noobs, because you can do the same with just some extra shots with lasgun

Or maybe they just know to value a weapon function that is useful for picking out targets on high density difficulties.

This “argument” can be applied to the comparison of any two weapons.
“The other weapon can do the same thing with just some extra hits.”
It is just not a meaningful statement.

It seems that there is no point in discussing with you, so i won’t cointinue trying to do so.
Have a good day.

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Lies and Slander

No seriously, what’s going on with this take? You saying a grey plasma gun with no build doesn’t compete with full builds of other guns?

I don’t get it.

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Til Lasgun is as good as Plasma Gun. I’m not sure who’s the one trolling here.

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I’m stating the fact that packed plasma with full build can barely compete with other guns in terms of output.

Simple recon lasgun with infurnus and bunch of talents outperforms plasmagun in everything while being safer and more versatile choice.