Of course I don’t think they would ever be able to do that without starting a war. I am just making a point that I see too often that it is very easy to point all fingers at GW and call it a day, whereas I personally have seen both GW and FS step into a messy salad more than once in my lifetime. Cheers! 
I feel like the opposite is true. We’re on an FS forum for an FS game and they’re the first point of contact with us. It is therefore easiest to blame them, so leave a comment criticising them on the sub-Reddit or forum and that’s that. Those who suggested GW might be at fault yesterday were castigated and mocked on the sub-Reddit for trying to give FS a free pass, whilst they were not accused of doing the same for GW.
As @Enclave said it, this does smell more like GW to me than FS, especially given the most immediate comments on the Discord made by QuickPaw were that at FS they, too, were upset with the sudden delay.
Not that it changes much. A trailer is now a week late, but the class will still be available on 2 Dec.
Almost everyone I’ve seen “mocked” have been rightly told that their “proof” and “evidence” and “certainty” that this was GW is actually not any of those things and we still no nothing with absolute certainty.
We don’t have proof it was FS who is at fault either. We can go in this circle forever, but the major backlash was at FS yesterday and it was very much one-sided; suggest GW might have had a hand in it? YOU FOOL! HOW DARE YOU SUGGEST ANYTHING OTHER THAN THE CROWD MENTALITY!
Of course there were people who said that it could only have been GW in the same way so many said it could only be FS at fault. People make claims without evidence all the time, but it was very much one-sided.
Asserting it was absolutely, 100% GW without proof is a bit different than blaming FS for what amounts to at least a QA/QC fudge-up on their part.
At a minimum, they did not set a proper timeline for review of marketing materials of an announcement they already announced was happening. Far less foolish to say as much.
And the burden of proof lies with the “accuser” (FS).
I don’t even care who’s actually at fault. This is all funny shite regardless.
But bending logic over backwards to defend the perennial fumbler, FS, is just something else.
Can’t you see the irony in your statement? You have zero proof that it’s what really happened, and yet you act like it’s the obvious answer here. It’s all just assumptions based on how these companies behaved in the past. I could literally say the very same thing you said, but defending FS and blaming GW:
“Asserting it was absolutely, 100% FS without proof is different than blaming GW for what amounts to them changing their minds at the last second.
GW is known to be very controlling over their IP and is very much willing to make companies scrap entire ideas that have been marketed since forever (weapon customization).
And the burden of proof lies within the accuser (people in reddit/forums).
I don’t even care who’s actually at fault. This is all funny shite regardless.
But bending the logic to defend GW, a company known for its perennial controllingness of the WH40k IP, is just something else.”
In the end, we’ll probably never find out what really happened, and people will believe what they want to believe. That’s how it always was and that’s how it’ll always be.
The event happening is the proof of my statement.
A big reveal event with a date they chose getting messed up by improperly screened marketing materials is 100% a review scheduling SNAFU from someone in FS management.
No logical leap needed.
People do such things around the world in this and other industries all the time. Long term planning is literally the most important (only?) thing that management brings to the table. This is on FS for announcing a date they didn’t properly plan for.
The minutiae of the cascading events that lead to a cancellation at time of is inconsequential.
Unless of course FS drops the mic with a half-year long email chain of them asking for GW to review their trailer with no response. Happy to eat crow then.
Again, you don’t know what really happened. And I could claim the same thing about GW also, saying “Things like that Happened in the industry…”. You can even hear this type of argument in Joplaysgames video on the matter. She says that from her experience, this is clearly something out of FS hands that GW is responsible for the delay.
You can just say you have an opinion. We won’t know what really hapened but we don’t have to act like who we know what the “objective truth is” and that the answer as to what really happened is “so obvious” and that “no logical leap is needed”. Again, I could literally have the same demenaor while saying it’s GW’s fault while also saying “based on how things function is the industry, I am definitely correct”.
The release date is unchanged, so, who the fk cares?
People that were excited for the announcement?
I appreciate your take on this and I am not in disagreement with you on what you have said. Regarding this particular instance, then yes, for all I know it certainly can be a GW move if it isn’t already proven. I suppose my general stance looks a bit harsher than I might have intended it to be because I am doing a bit of a wide sweep on the topic, not locking into this isolated instance alone. But yeah, I get your point.
Regarding release dates and so on tied to Darktide, my patience with the general development of this game and Fatshark ran out well over a year ago, so I don’t really care much about some dates being moved around.
It’s like a scene out of Airplane!
Comms Team: Dev team, how soon can we make the announcement?
Dev Team: We can’t tell.
Comms Team: You can tell us, we’re the comms team.
Dev Team: No, I mean we’re just not sure.
Comms Team: Well, can’t you take a guess?
Dev Team: Well… not for another 5 days.
Comms Team: You can’t take a guess for another 5 days?
Dev Team: No, no, no. We mean we can’t make the announcement for another 5 days. We just didn’t notice until 15 minutes before the announcement.
Not particularly, some people were no doubt excited.
The reason this has become a “big” deal is because of FatShark’s history as a developer and their seemingly inability to hit any goal, no matter how small, they themselves have set.
I mean yeah it’s like the Gods have a sense of humor making fatshark immediately fail their first roadmap in years. It’s hilarious on one hand but at the cost of delaying a big reveal, and with their history I don’t blame anyone for being upset with fatshark.
Release date of what?
Keep it civil, guys. I’m mopping over here.
Holy kark, PEAK reference
It was between that and the “Sir, shouldn’t we turn on the searchlights now?”, “No… that’s just what they’ll be expecting us to do.”
See, the inability to meet even the simplest of deadlines means people lose confidence that the release date won’t also suffer a ‘last minute’ change.