MY experience with server performance, Inputs, enemy spawns etc

Here comes a big incoherent feedback and experience rant for you guys and girls at Fatshark because FOR ME this is the worst part of Darktide currently, and is making the game nearly unplayable in higher difficulties. While there are some posts in recent weeks More and more of these are going to occur as newer players begin transitioning into higher difficulties.

Game stability for me right now is borderline acceptable as my game will crash due to game issues (most likely server issues not client related) around once every 5 hours, Other more frequent crashes I have are mainly related to instability in my overclocks as I’m always playing around with my system as a hobby.

Server performance seems to be degrading as time goes on, I’m not sure if its because I notice it more through time played or if it really is degrading.

I don’t know if its specific to Asia Pacific southeast-2 Amazon servers but there’s a tonne of stuttering and server dysfunction going on to the point and without exaggeration Its a fight against server performance EVERY ROUND… My latency to the AWS game servers is 54ms.

I don’t remember these issues during beta period or early in release, maybe they were always there and I only noticed when I began playing damnation difficulty, Earlier on the game was surprisingly responsive and felt good apart from the odd round where it felt like you were running in mud eg- felt like the server was pulling you or holding you back somehow, maybe it had a higher tick rate or tighter network prediction and you guys lowered it to save bandwidth or loosen up how movement felt? or simply get rid of that mud wallowing feeling? who knows?

Another issue is how smooth the game feels when the servers struggle, I can have 70+fps when the screen is filled with enemies and psyker sparkles (like enemies running through walls and in the air) yet the game feels like its playing at 20fps or lower, it becomes like a slideshow… Why is FPS “feeling” tied to server performance? (amd software reports my average fps in darktide is 91 and 95th percentile frame times are 12ms)

enemy spawning behavior: please for the love of god fix this, I occasionally see enemies spawning in and out of existence meters away, sometimes in front and most annoyingly behind or inside your character model, eg- you’ve just cleared a corner up against a wall with no way for an enemy to drop in on you, you turn around to face forwards then take a hit from behind (with no warning sound btw) because an enemy or two magically spawn in or run in through the wall from outside the map.

One of the worst maps for this is the hourglass one in reverse, you can be fighting a horde alone then all of a sudden shield Ogryn, crushers and ragers can spawn 1-5m away away and start swinging, or hounds spawning directly in front of you only to leap less than a second later with no audio cue whatsoever.

There’s also the extreme frustration of input roll backs, the server seems so overloaded that packets are being dropped or simply being ignored for the sake of its own self preservation.

That’s not the worst of the buggy servers either, while more rare, Stacked hits or stacked damage occurs. Single hits from a poxwalker or gunner can take all your stamina, break your shield and ALL your health, insta downing you in what appeared to be ONE HIT whilst you were blocking or clearly dodged… This seems to only occur while the server is melting down and all those other issues are occurring.

All this is confirmed to be happening by others I play with at the same time and I’m 100% certain my connection is excellent as I’ll go through that before I jump online and Whine about it, I am wired to my router which has the correct ports open and I also have QoS setting which prioritize game data on my PC over every device connected in my home.

Either the server software needs some serious work or the server hardware and bandwidth requires upgrading to a more expensive AWS plan which can handle the load this game seems to have.

On that subject I notice I’m connected to 6 or so servers related to darktide while playing (maybe 3 or 4 and connections are up and download separate), 3 or 4 of them have a latency of 260ms so I assume its backend stuff like master server and stats located either in europe or usa, then two servers at 55 ping which are the AWS (amazon) servers, there’s a server or connection with 10 ping which may be my ISP (I haven’t checked the IP yet), SO, why so many connections for one game? surely we only need the game and the login account? Which one has final authority? I really hope its not one of the servers with 250+ latency because the game certainly feels like that at times almost as if the game instance tries its best to sync all 3 datasets up lol…

Not gonna lie and I never thought I’d feel this way but I prefer the P2P networking in Vermintide 2. It could have been modified to a token ring sort of scenario where all users held a version of the token so that once one disconnected everyone remained, a star ring of sorts.

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The Crawl in the Hourglass is legitimately the worst segment to go through in the game (both ways, but going down is a bit worse due to the spawning issues) and the stairwell down near the beginning of the Water Silo in the Torrent is almost as bad.

I think it’s a verticality issue where the engine isn’t taking into account vertical distance for some triggers.

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yeah its definitely up there, even the elevator section on the leadup to the ledge gets really bad too, which also brings up the issue of enemies shooting through the floors! The spawns are also very bugged as you get to the scaffolding to go down, often entire hordes and heavies spawning in on you as you drop.
Its actually one of my favorite maps but man its got a high failure rate for me, mainly for these reasons.

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I can only second the degrading server performance. Right now it seems to be at its worst since the Beta. It’s basically unplayable even on heresy a lot of times.
The server literally has no clue whatsoever of my postion in relation to enemies. Ridiculous iceskating, running attacks in my face, enemies, constantly phasing through me, dmg stacking, attack rubberbanding… the list is endless.

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Fatshark did a good start fixing the game but the servers now become a really big issue ; between the server crash and all the trouble during the gameplay (iceskatting, my single-shot weapons don’t fire 1 of 3 times, mini-rollback etc…).

Local games in Vermintide wasn’t perfect but I miss them now.

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All these issues are driving me away from the game, i can confirm i have witnessed everything OP mentions on a regular basis

No audio cue specials spawning right behind you, poxbursters, trappers, dogs, you name it, you’re f*cked and no chance to react
Sometimes they spawn in front of you out of thin air

Can’t hot swap to melee to block, the server doesn’t let you, especially if the enemy started its attack animation
Server also cancels reloading, sprinting on toggle, crouch sliding, jumping, and dozens of noregs per missions

I actually never experienced one shot wonders, until yesterday i got one shot by a single groaner, toughness full (117) and hp full (227)

Can’t dodge the mutant, can’t dodge or push the dog, can’t dodge the sniper shot either which hit you by passing 2 meters to your right and through the wall

Poxbursters suddenly immuned to push even if i’m alone dealing with it at full stam, because i noticed the game makes them immune to stagger if someone shoot them which is also stupid

Snipers shooting at your team from positions where you can’t return fire or BB, usually fences but sometimes even plain visible with just their lower body behind cover, and sometimes even fully visible next to cover instead of behind it

Hordes immediately spawning behind your backline’s back without a single audio cue, that’s 50 zombies suddenly hitting your teammate’s back who apparently managed to make absolutely no noise whatsoever and sneaked behind them

And then there’s the server crashing right when you’re taking the elevator out of the mission

It’s every mission
9 times out of 10 when i take damage, it’s the game / the server sh*tting itself, and sometimes that even leads to losing the entire mission which is absolutely unacceptable

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615 hours in, performance right now is at it’s worst.

Everything mentioned in the comments echoes my own experience with friends. I mainly get 120 Fps during slow periods but AS SOON as ANY spawns occur this goes down the drain. Hit registration, weapon swapping, rubber banding, attack stacking, etc. Its all happening when the AI director decides to issues spawns, whether that be horde or otherwise. Obviously special spawns are less impactful but once you get a horde with specials the server just melts. What says 60-75 fps easily feels like 30. I don’t care what my PC is saying at that point when the game legit feels like its on an acid trip. Even if it’s true at 60fps, the drop from 120 down and back as i move my camera around is staggering.

Content drops and weapons balancing wont fix these servers, Fatshark needs to prioritize this if they want any continuance of player base. I don’t recall anything under Heresy having these problems, most likely due to less entities. I only play damnation and the modifiers, f*ck the servers on Hi intensity shock troops.

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Since latest update its much much worse and Im actually beginning to think its the server provider, if i play early in the day when amazon aren’t all loaded up the game is much improved (not perfect) when i play in the evenings its terrible, its taking the servers up to 65ms to process the data and get it back to me, that takes my usual latency inc server process time from 70ms up to 110ms, (for reference a quick ping to the server is 54ms), poor hardware and queues for data are most likely the issue in my region.

While on that subject a bunch of server rentals for Hell let loose mid last year cancelled their servers with amazon because of poor performance.

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Every point from OP is valid
fatshark please change your servers get another provider or something

I know its never that simple but in reality if your game is about killing heretics
its the CORE aspect of YOUR game
and all my shots/hits just disappear because of YOUR decision to cheap out on amazon servers

I simply cant kill/play = only thing left to do is glorified slotmachine simulator

Jesus get it together i have spend 20 mins looking for similar problems
all you do is acknowledge, acknowledge, acknowledge with no real solution in sight
but no amount of content drops will fix cheap servers
get it done !! or you will continue to see your already niche player base dwindle down
to the last 3 whales that keep your company afloat…

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We never should have deviated from P2P

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As of July

Servers are still poopy
some might say even more poopy with the crossplay patch.

Still huffing copium in hopes for a finished product

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Its been very bad for me as well. Keep in mind FS is on vacation right now so there will be no changes for at least 1-2 months.

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1-2 months… How long do they have Holidays in Sweden man?
wtf…
Wher i live when you are in school you have 5 weeks sommer off. But as adults you only get 4 officiall weeks but everyone does 5!

Continuing this thread so it doesn’t get closed automatically. Server performance continues to degrade. This is nigh unplayable now. What exactly could possibly be this wrong at fatshark HQ that the servers on literal life support rn? This is inexcusable. Vacation be damned, you lazy FKs get back in here and fix this.

We’re in July and still nothing has been done

Maybe you think it’s fine requiring your players to press weapon swap 5 times for the command to register, but no, it’s not

still here the salt continuous

Fatshark the constant error message banner that pops up in the morgenstein
is that your fake bandage for the obvious server problems ?

such banners should be used temporally and
not automated like its gonna fix itself

seeing that banner since crossplay was introduced like 2 months ago
and not hearing anything substantial from you about it doesnt give me much hope for the
future of this game …

Isn’t part of the reason for these problems the fact the game decided it needed to host everything server side rather than doing client side hitreg and such?

any incoming fixes ? or general info on this situation ?