I didn’t necessarily mean it’s the same, I’m saying the moment a player alt+f4s you already have wonky things happening that take you outta the game. Personally I don’t care if it’s a “good outcome” for the team as in an extra life, that just makes me feel bad because it’s cheating. It’s not welcome at all. People gotta learn to take losses.
My point was mostly that once you banish the exploit people stop doing this so you won’t actually experience it very often anymore. I certainly see way more people disconnecting “conveniently” than truly random DCs or crashes.
I’m not a huge fan either. I think the accessibility excuse is pretty thin. It’s a multiplayer coop game, I think it’s kinda silly to have a cheat mode for people who can’t hear. You could stretch that excuse into every direction: I have a debiliating condition that wrecks my arm muscles makes it impossible for me to twitch aim, so how about a mod that does it for me? How about a mod that shows me all enemies through walls because I have ptsd and sudden scares trigger it?
You can really justify every cheat with “accessibility”. I would be surprised if even 0.01% of people using that mod were actually hearing impaired in any way.
“my aim is bad on controller so i need aim assist that works in crossplay with PC - ohh wait i can get a keyboard + mouse on my console and use that with aim assist to have all the advantages”
also comes with the “bUt wHaT abOUt accESsiBiliTY?”
You can DC when you’re on your last wound and when you come back, you’re no longer downed nor dead. It’s effectively infinite free lives. It means there is zero risk of you full dying, ever.
I’m not 100% sure if it’s just corruption from damage but sometimes people have a wound when they come back and sometimes not. Even if it does result in a wound then it’s an extra life because just having a wound spare doesn’t mean you get revived. It’s effectively reviving/rescuing yourself in the worst case (still absolutely cheating) and in the best case it’s infinite wounds + reviving yourself.
I’ve personally reported this almost half a dozen times for a long time now. I’m amazed this doesn’t get express fixed. It’s seriously lame to have people in your game that refuse to just die when they mess up. It’s like playing a video game with your little brother who throws a tantrum and turns on gameshark when he’s losing, except you can’t just smack him and tell him to be normal
True I guess i meant second last. Given that I’m also pretty sure it doesn’t actually ever remove your wounds and it’s always just corruption damage because I’ve certainly experienced people doing this half a dozen times with not zealot martyrdom builds.
So I guess the added up corruption damage at some point does make you full die, unless that also gets removed which again I’m not actually sure about, I don’t do it myself and it’s hard to pay close attention since you can’t see their HP bar when they’re downed
Its been talked about A LOT.
Its safe to say at this point that fatshark genuinely and seriously DOES NOT CARE. Period.
This is one of my threads that got a lot of attention because i made it nice and clickbatey…
… but seriously if you just search for “cheat” on the steam forum for darktide there are ENDLESS threads mentioning this and various others.
If you look at the related threads on this very website there is 1 guy posting it in the bug section back in february 2023 where it got “acknowledged”.
If Fatshark changed it now, it would be rewarding players who cheesed the penance (which would be most people) and punishing anyone else from doing it in the future. It was a mistake to have any penance require actions to be done via consecutive runs in the first place, and this is what should be addressed to prevent cheesing. The penance should be changed from consecutive runs without dying to simply more runs without dying but drop the consecutive requirement.
In one of the two locations I play this game, it’s almost guaranteed I’ll drop out once or more every other run. With the frequency I play this game at now, which is not very often, I’d effectively have to never play in one of these two locations to do anything via consecutive runs without lagging out.
Regarding coding the game to recognise an alt-f4. It might work somewhat by stopping the most lazy people.
But anyone who really wants to will download the new mod that will most certainly be made to cause the game to crash or a program that does the same thing. You cannot stop cheaters all the time.
If you notice someone abusing the alt-f4 to drop in and out to avoid death over and over, report them to FS and block them on steam/xbox.
I dont often advocate for that kinda stuff, but in this case I can fully understand. You might get a few angry people typing not understanding what the problem is and beware of being reported for team killing.
Personally, Id just report, block and move on. Same with runners.
Banning from the session is not the same thing as banning from the game. The only thing they wouldn’t be able to do is rejoin the specific mission that they voluntarily left.
And honestly, neither should anyone else. It’s a dumb challenge in a game. I’d like it to mean something but it doesn’t. Not being able to “cheese” it won’t make it mean more.
This topic has already been discussed past the puddle which was once a dead horse.
I’m 1000 hours in at this point, and I’ve had less than 5 cases where I’ve had to alt-f4 due to getting stuck. That’s not hyperbole. It’s such a huge edge case that it shouldn’t even be an argument against this.
Fun! I’m also at 1k hours now, I get clipped outside the map by a spawn or mutie every 8 games or so (guesstimate). When that happens my options usually are to either die and respawn, reconnect or to walk back into or out of the map on rare occasion.
Not counting instances of curiosity killing the cat, getting stuck in some piece of geometry since that’s far more rare.
not to mention all the times that mutants, chaos spawns and beasts of nugle just glitch you trough some walls and you are still alive undermesh and the solution is to alt f4
because fu suicide, you won’t make me
i played like 3 games yesterday and i had an instance of this, it happens on every map
if the game won’t fix itself at least you have a tool to make an attempt