When a player leaves become a bot instantly. I’ve seen this save a many runs.
In higher ranks it’s meta for a player to leave if 3-4 players are down. This is why I created the this.
If we the group kicks a player who is down or out, the problem becomes solved. Bot proceeds to be better then a down and out player. It’s this that I don’t like. A premade of 2-3 will kick the 4th just to save the run.
I really don’t know how to fix this. The kick system is for toxic players but it’s also being used to save the run. It’s not fair for the player that has to leave or get kicked just to save the run.
My thoughts would be a delay in bot control but this is also toxic for the team if the player just leaves… A leave penalty? Not sure if this is the healthy option. Dumb down the bots??? Solo runs becomes impossible.
Rewards for the kick player? There is some mert to this as they spent 30m in a game only to get kicked because the group is about to lose. Sure rewards to toxic player but they spent just as much time in the game, they won’t get the full reword.
Has such a situational kickvote ever happened to you? Because I have never experienced such a misuse of the kickvote in over 700 hours of Darktide.
Usually when things go south no one has the time to iniate a vote. And if everyone is already down then it’s unlikely that a bot will save the team as it will get swarmed and killed by the mobs within seconds.
I think in +1000h i saw only one time one player that “cheated” with AltF4 to give the bot to the last player for toughness rigen.
In high levels bot are pretty useless and go down quite fast, it’s true that sometimes i had runs saved by them helping downed or trapped players but was always dine because of players leaving before the defeat screen. No one ever was kicked
Since it hardly happens it is not much of a problem in my opinion. Nevertheless, you are asking for counter measures but these might result in bigger problems in the end.
it’s “cheating”!
If this is the meta the games design is bad, because it let gamers game the system rather than play the game like intendend.
No bots!
Or only if you choose to have from the start to the end!
I know it is to have the game flow better in case of connection errors etc.
But if gaming the system and “cheating” becomes the meta, the system has to be redesigned or removed entirely.
Not sure it is the meta or a problem really or if this is only true for some players.
BTW if there is a toxic player, i can mute and ignore him or just leave the game myself and block that player.
I dont need a kick option, i have never needed to use it, if there would be a situation i want to kick someone for whatever reason i’m happy quitting the mission myself, block that player and go on.
No need for a kick option for me!
The kick option is maybe a thing for the very first 1-2 minutes if one member is afk and doesnt seem to move at all for 2 minutes.
But even then: leave mission start ahead.
I’m not against bots, but the bots i want are my own characters played by AI for a “solo” mode. On top of that i really want a true solo mode for me alone without bots.
And no, i dont want to play a mod without progression, i want to farm f… plaasteel in my own pace with my characters as bots or without them.
You cannot change other people, you can only let them be and seperate yourself.
I like Coop games although i have no one i know to play with and only play with strangers.
But if people start to become unbearable or make cheating a meta the only thing that helps really is to let them be and do your own thing.