And we can totally learn things about the game too instead of loading into threads with ‘this needs nerfs but this doesn’t’. Clear your mind friendo.
Oh you mean I should stop doing what you are doing right now? Lmao. Zero self awareness.
Uh no I will reiterate that if Veteran’s power sword 6, with Veteran’s damage buffs in his tree that equal more melee damage than 6 stack marty, with the sunder blessing that bypasses armor hitstop and increases enemy hitmass by 75% on attacks with 12 hitmass and 8 enemies; will somehow do LESS damage than a pickaxe, than yeah I will say there’s a lot you have to pick up in the game. like what enemy compositions is the pickaxe clearing faster.
I think your confirmation bias on ‘what other people do’ is coming from people playing ogg/zeal for melee and vet/psyker for ranged. I usually do too, but downplaying the existence of this loadout is just embarassing. Did you not pick it up after it could drop bulwarks in a single push stab? Lol, lmao even…
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Because it’s ugly. So if it’s ugly, least it should be powerful.
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Haha! Good, good, let the hate flow through you!
Dude, seriously chill. Also get some self awareness.
the guys with no arguments are mad, not the people who discuss the game without ‘x main dumb and I hate them so I don’t play it and have zero perspective’. it has literally always been this way. maybe some day you’ll come to appreciate how well designed the 4 classes are instead of lampooning the simpleton for gasp having simple designs and slowness.
Ah… Man, stop projecting so hard.
A few replies back I said we can agree to disagree, but you had to go for an insult, which was basically self-own so I just couldn’t resist. What did you do after? Write a rant.
I personally feel like the 4 classes are well designed, but Ogryn is overtuned. That’s what I think and I’m not going to go for a longwinded debate on the topic because I couldn’t care less. FS is already doing a good job slowly tuning it.
I find extra irony in the thing that my half joking reply that if these stats would be from a melee Vet people would cry bloody murder made you come out and start blasting PS.
I mean come on, both of us have better things to do than throw around insult.
Who said that?
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uh dude discussing the game is not a rant. you are personally too attacked by the characters of this game to even have an unbiased discussion. this is why in a similar manner to you using your vet experience to point out that the plasma while dominant in all situations does not break the game for others through its slowness, I had to point out that the same is true of Ogryn. this unhinged rant of yours has appeared in several threads suffocating all discussion so its kind of impossible to turn around and blame others. again, there is no irony in you commenting on other perspectives and anger here. just people trying to discuss darktide and not some ‘this is bad and I hate it so I don’t play it’ conversation stifler.
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We are all biased.
my experience. I was thinking that plasma gun had an infinite cleave. I was totally wrong… even if still, the cleave on a light shot is really TOO much.
I must say that Fatshark has made a choice. The new patch is the new balance for the game.
This means that, now, Fatshark must buff weapons that are not balanced toward a revolver or a plasma gun. IAG (except the columnus), Brautos (except agri), autopistols, shotguns (especially lawbringer but also the agri) etc. All these weapons should be buffed.
And after that, we need a new difficulty, or that they buff the enemies.
(Yes I use old names… the new names don’t make sense for me)
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At least stop putting words in my mouth.
I haven’t said Ogryn breaks the games for others.
I doesn’t for a long time, it’s not like Ogryns are running around and just blowing everything up with kickback or Rumbler, those were nerfed ages ago.
Only things I can think of that actually ruin the game for others are Knife through the use of Zealot mobility and stealth enabling fighting rooms ahead of the group and Smite making the game boring for other.
It breaks the games difficulty alright and my enjoyment of it when playing it, but not for other.
BTW I also play and enjoy Zealot and Psyker, I don’t just play 1 class.
if you play auric, you meet the worst players in the community somehow, you just met a zealot that’s angry you’re getting kills they want not a rational person. have a snack and move on with your life, they’re not worth thinking or posting about.
If you play any game on max difficulty you will meet the worst players in the community. That’s how it be
yeah it’s part of not actually enjoying the game and thinking the 4 characters are in some direct competition at the buff-teet, and that players are bad for enjoying any part of that 4 character system outside the ones they enjoy. I don’t even know why someone who didn’t play Ogryn before patch 13, and doesn’t still, would think he has some dog in the fight. we can watch people who have played tide games for thousands of hours get hit playing Ogryn because he is so slow in their solos. obviously they just aren’t dodge-sliding hard enough he’s invincible!
Please don’t tell me how I think, I do not believe any of this. Also would be appreciated if you would not outright lie, although I did ask you before so probably you won’t stop doing it, I might as well ask again.
In short, I only play Ogryn a few time each patch because I find it too strong to be interesting.
I also played Ogryn before patch 13, where I actually made a post about how incredibly broken it was back then. You might even remember it.
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I’ve had 3 seperate occasions where I took plasma gun (which I don’t use often at all) into Auric, and people disconnected from the lobby because of it. Twice I’m absolutely certain it was the cause since they said so. lol.
Personally, I’ve never dodged a match due to weapon choice, but it does seem to annoy some folks.
In one of the games I mentioned, one of my team asked why the plasma gun causes that reaction, and I demonstrated the weapons effectiveness against tightly packed groups of enemies in a corridor. Bear in mind this was before the crafting rework, which has since tweaked the weapon.
I suppose there’ll be leftover hatred for the weapon for a short while, regardless of whether its currently justified.
(wait, has this topic been active for almost a full month?? impressive!)
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‘In short, I base my experiences off of not playing the entire kit, just one best loadout, then decide it reflects the entire experience’. We know. I’d also appreciate it if you stopped trying to backpedal and pretend that you were ever arguing in good faith.
literally as a response to an actual observation of the game using mechanics as proof and not ‘I just don’t play it anymore because its so cheap’. If you wanna go back and edit an actual message or point into those posts feel free. But get off the cross already, the only one whose throwing insults is you. While ironically crying about being targeted. Fragile ego babies need to take their self esteem issues elsewhere man, I’m just trying to talk about a game. Not derail a plasma thread everyone agrees the cleave is bonkers with ‘bbb-butt ogryn’ and have no one agree.
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Jesus dude just stop lying and projecting so hard. It’s tiring.
Here this still stands:
Yes after that I again replied sarcastically it was a funny reaction for getting called out on your lack of self awareness.
What are you doing since then? You keep insulting me and lying because… why? Because I’m not debating you? Your feeling were hurt?
I tried like 3-4 times to finish this thing in a civil way. Grow up.
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I mean…it’s ok to not like the look and playstyle, but it’s noticeably behind both zealot and vet, always has been. I find your take beyond strange and quite frankly seems dishonest.
It was still even more noticeably behind both vet and zealot pre #13, you clearly didn’t play any of the 3 enough back then; you’re misremembering.
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