Can something be done about the inconsistent monster spawns? Some round on screaming bell the monster will spawn when the ubersreik 5 reach the bomb cart, while other times the monster will spawn when they are finished with that event and reach to long stair, the option doesn’t show up when you die.
Same on into the grain. Sometimes the monster will spawn when the ubersreik reach the tunnel bridge, while other times it will spawn when they reach the big barn later on that map.
Yeah, the randomness of monster spawns is complete BS. On the Screaming Bell bomb cart objective, it often makes or breaks the match, one team gets a free objective completion, the other doesn’t.
The way it works as far as I understand is that monster spawns are preset per map
After the heroes make X amount of score, whoever gets to pick special again will be prompted monster for the first time
The inconsistency comes from the fact that sometimes rats take a while to die, and they’ll get the prompt like 15-20s later than the previous team due to how you’re given the boss
Yes. I hate it too.
Against the grain and Righteous stand 1. You can get such late boss spawn that he cant do anything. And second team can abuse this fact and just speedrun that place.
The inconsistency have nothing to do with rats not dying. The rats die all the time and still no prompt to be monster until much later.
As I said in my original post, I have seen it happen literally minutes later, and it caused the other team to win since the monster spawned at the moment they had enough points to win, even though it should have spawned minutes before.
It is exactly as vror said, whenever the boss is up and available to spawn, the first person that dies after the boss check is cleared gets offered the boss as an option. The delay you are mentioning can be attributed to people passing the boss. - at this point i slightly agree with this. The passing of the boss seems to have an inconsistent delay before it’s being offered to someone else, from what it looks to me it’s somewhere between 3-8 seconds, anyone that dies after the boss is passed doesnt usually get it offered instantly and more often than not, the boss gets offered to the same person as a result, which makes people pass it again. Passing the boss is literally the worst thing you can do in most cases on most maps right now sadly, since you are delaying your strongest tool as the pactsworn team heavily.
From my experience there was nothing to indicate that this working incorrectly/differently after the last patch so what you’re saying is provable to be wrong.
There are places where the boss spawn trigger feels useless or too late on all of the maps, i do agree with that.
The “random” part is one of the benefits for heroes going second to the round as the losing side, due to being able to plan around it, and in the first bout of rounds it’s a benefit for the winner of the coin flip for going blind into the round.
You’re right that’s gotta be it. I passed the boss once, my first time playing and I didn’t want that pressure 
now I know better!
For example Against the Grain 1.
You can get Boss in the field stage
And you can get Boss after last big barn gates opening
BUT - both teams has the same spawn point for boss.
I just had a monster spawn really early in engine of war second map. Both teams had just been able to blow up 1 doomwheel when a monster spawned.
Are some people really going to say that somehow most teams will just push the monster spawn back until the event is finished and not spawn as monster right away, even newbie players?
Don’t think anyone necessarily said so, but that is one of the possible boss triggers on the second bout of rounds on engines of war, yes, so would make sense. You don’t want to lose the boss to the explosion, so people can either hold it or pass it if there is nothing they’d be able to use it for without dying or finishing the heroes off before the event ends. Depends on the situation as always. There’s no point in spawning if it would not do anything and you’d just die for free because of it, and if you can’t make the judgement whether or not that’d happen, it’s just better to let it go through. More often than not people just spawn and die though, so idk where you’re coming from.
Btw - if you run away and Q to go back to the shadow realm, you will not die, running away works as well.
Spawn points for monsters are random. But they are the same for both team.
Thats how i can “catch” monster in 95% of games when we are playing Skaven second.