3 months have been passed since the last Season of Havoc started (Season 3), so now after the update of the 23rd, Season 4 will begin, and with that, Havoc Clearance being reset to 0 for everyone, and Havoc Assigntment being reduced by the closest number that ends in 0 (1, 10, 20 or 30)
This is confirmed by the fact Ducane is also on a cooldown until the update releases
This makes me glad I never even bothered with that f**ing s**t again after 2 wipes and a near win when Havoc first came out. Between the punishing difficulty, party-finder woes, deranking after losses and rank resets - It seems designed to make people not want to play Havoc.
And frankly, I’m more than happy to oblidge. Sweet as they are, I don’t need the 53rd armor and the penance points that badly so Dukane can keep them.
Even if new features are added to Havoc, without proper balance adjustments it will remain a foolish game mode where every season boils down to bubble and Chorus spam, with weapons and builds practically locked in.
Also, the rank display should only show the rank a player has earned through their own ability, not the one obtained by joining someone else’s party. That way, the number of rank 40 players who were merely carried would be greatly reduced.
Again, I sincerely don’t understand the point of Havoc “seasons” if there’s no reward at the end of the season for those who, say, maintained a rank every week, or played X games at a certain rank, or had a win-loss ratio. Anyone can just take 40th, even if it’s random. What the hell is the point? We won’t hear or know the answer from the sharks. But personally, I’m tired of this completely pointless thing.
wait a few days, hop onto a 40 game cause lvl~2000 oggy usually gets a free pass nowadays, play the damn thing to get my “herrenrasse” eartag and not bother again about it for 3 months ?
This is what happened to me with that bug that occurred on the first few weeks of havoc. If you hadn’t won a mission that week then it set you back to plum 0. I was H40 at the time and it deflated me. Luckily I had already gotten all the penances so I just couldn’t face it again until recently. But now just as I am getting close to H40 assignment rank…it resets again.
I only play with randoms so lose more games than win. I only get to play 1 full length havoc mission a night due to the ridiculous time/concentration requirements (you need to be inside a hermetically sealed chamber in a cave on the moon for over an hour). And I only want to play h40 for the challenge, I am not interested in climbing the same ladder that is constantly kicked away (why would anyone?) so I spend more time in party finder hoping to be chosen than actually playing.
Demotion is super poison. It’s also spiteful and humiliating. Pure player-hating anti-design.
I play Auric Maelstrom when I can’t commit to the hermetic chamber but AM is so damn easy now that it’s H40 challenge I seek.
If we got some new maps then I wouldn’t be so bored that I would need to keep complaining but as FS is clearly allergic to new maps, here I am.
The de-rank on three mission failures, I can understand that it’s to add some extrinsic stakes, but the de-rank over time (including the “season” “reset”) is purely player-hostile, MBA-infected retention dross.
On paper it works, but anyone who has played havoc for more than a single day (not the devs it seems!) will understand it’s nothing but demoralising. Many of us play with randoms so it’s a wipe fest for many, many reasons beyond our control. A team member quitting is basically a guaranteed wipe and so the whole team gets punished for that.
I don’t want to spend 30 minutes waiting for a H40 mission to show up in the terminal. I just want to play the difficulty I want to play (and that i have played and won many times before).
FS don’t like letting people play their game, just like they don’t like letting us spend money on the cosmetics we actually want.
It’s not just grind though is it? As mentioned above it’s hugely RNG with teammates. Many of us don’t play with prebuilt. So ‘grinding’ up 3 levels then wiping the next 6 games because you get bad teammates and get pushed back 2 levels is just bad in every sense.
When I lose a difficult game I want to try again to beat it. The 3 strike system makes me not want to, nor does it even allow me to. It’s indefensibly bad.
I feel like deranking just holds back the quality of the games, it makes people too picky and serious.
When you’re in the 30-39 bracket you can see this but once you hit H40 it eases up.
Havoc is so much more fun to me once I hit 40 because I can just go for the f*ck it we ball mentality, late at night and the only one who wants to join is a zealot with clearance lvl 24? sure why not, gunpsyker? lets give it a shot, those games ended up being one of the most fun I’ve played, as long as everyone tries i dont care what ppl run.
But when I’m not h40? Yeah you’re not joining my team I don’t wanna derank
