Havoc = objectively still wasted dev time

[anon73549677]

@Jado

You never cleared Havoc 40 or achieved True Survivor prior to the Havoc revamp.

Show me where I ever claimed this or even intimated it.

@Jado

You and I have already discussed this

No, what we discussed is you claiming Havoc is no more difficult that the entire rest of the game, which is absurd and not a matter of opinion.

@anon73549677

I’m just responding to this claim:

@Jado

Havoc as a game mode is exactly the same level of difficulty as the rest of the game

Which is objectively false.

You are likely insulated by the fact that you are a very very skilled player, but the mode is, in fact, harder than the rest of the game because of the modifiers I linked/posted above. By virtue of these modifiers existing in Havoc, the mode is less forgiving of mistakes than the previous hardest levels, A5s and AMs (many of which give players a buff).

That’s all!

@Jado

why are you engaging in discussions about topics you have no firsthand knowledge of?

If you’re going to try to police my participation in this topic, you might want to apply those same rules to like half the rest of this forum.