Havoc first impression

sounds like you need me, i play bolter with exec stance, gunners disappears in my games

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I can’t find any description, but Havoc decreases your stats. Like my ogryn has 380 HP instead of 480 with x3 HP curios. Same with toughness.

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Possibly, we rolled 3 zealots and 1 psyker for most of it. No really thought out builds, just trying out new weapons.

With gunner numbers and their buffs, I unironically feel the lasgun vet might be back. I can only wish the silly Helbore prep animation has been removed, both excel at clearing the screen from gunner patrols.

Having worked in QA as a playtester, there’s another, dramatically more common option not listed, and that’s that Dev’s didn’t care what they playtesters said.

Devs often just care to know that everything functions as they designed it, not whether that design is good or not.

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MG12? Now that would be some news

Yes, I’m aware. I think I went down from something like 160 toughness to 110 or something at one point.

At the very least get rid of the player cap so Havoc would at least introduce solo mode which has long been over due.

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This is Winds of Magic; all over again. Havoc is Weaves 2.0.

Now I understand why Fatshark sticks with Nurgle as the antagonist in their games—the sheer amount of brain rot it must take to dig up weaves, dust them off, and genuinely believe it’s a good idea this time is nothing short of incredible.

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I would like to hear the reasoning behind this. It just feels like one of those undercooked coop features in mostly single player games, where only the host progresses their character / the story/ or the campaign. Who wants to play like this?

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at least we didnt have to pay for it.

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I suspect it might be some kind of weirdly implemented anti booster mechanic.

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I doubt it will. I’m currently at 21 and there is no room for precise weapons. I can see that it will be all the same - long range control like rumbler, full protection like relic and dome, and voc for panic toughness refill. Taunt aswell cause turns off ranged ai.

I’d rather pay for stuff than get this for free.

I can’t believe I’m saying this but weaves was actually good compared to this. As insane as it sounds:

  • custom maps and map effects for every weave type (8 total)
  • new weapons and a new map
  • new enemy faction
  • new crafting mechanic with custom skins for every weapon
  • custom music score for every weave
  • global new difficulty

Sure it was dogsht without quickplay and bots and a closed off content isle but holy fcck was it better than this trash heap we got for “free”

(Paid for by 20 dollar skins that look worse than 7 bucks vermintide 2 ones)

As in ranks? I couldn’t care less. I just want to play a map of our choosing with player controlled difficulty modifiers and maybe throw in the Twitch mode into it. Eh…

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Everyone has to play your mission, so you have to be the one that starts the mission.

So people didnt like the party finder?? Let’s make it an obligation to do havoc!
That seems like someone got some ego issue seriously.

Gonna pass on havoc after one try, I dont have friends who play the game so I guess no endgame for me… Party finder is just trash (barely see any lobbies in there anyway even with this update)

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i managed to advance without hosting, you can join higher levels than yours and play their missions, your assignment will get updated next week, and hopefully i will manage to overcome the 9999 problem

hard to find rooms though after 21

this is what it looks like to me now

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Yes, but if you are in a group where you’re the highest rank, you can only start a mission of your rank, not the achieved rank until the reset. It’s still handicapping.

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if it helps when you are in the party finder

you keep an eye for this number
immagine

that’s the host doing his highest assignment, so you don’t join a group that has no elegible host

Yes, but it means you are at the mercy of the party finder because you can’t host your own party.