(Sorry for necro’ing this post, saw that I missed it, and I really wanted to answer you and speak my piece on artistic injustice- such as it is.)
My method that I do to do my artwork is thus:
I draw a sketch of what I want, and I go on to color it in, using what knowledge of drawing I have. Once I am finished, I plug it into midjourney and, if applicable, use stock photos of environments and or people to get the backdrop, pose/model I want. Midjourney prints me out something that isn’t what I am looking for as my work is my own and I just don’t think it’s intuitive enough.
I take the iteration, trace the model work, and the placement of the eyes. Because gosh darnit, I just can’t ever get my alignment correctly because of my vision. I don’t even draw with classic pen and paper, I have to use digital mediums because of the ability to zoom in. Again, this can create issues in alignment. I cannot express how frustrating it is to deal with the malady of issues I deal with when trying to create art, vision being one of them.
After I have colored the image, and photoshoped what I wanted, I may have a AI background that followed the same process as my sketch.
The claim or notion that AI art is not “My work.” is utter nonsense and feels like I’m being excluded from the art community after I finally find a way to express myself artistically. I’ve done a lot of different kind of works and plan on putting up a portfolio soon. I’ve made environmental shots, portraits, action scenes, cartography… I use it for a TTRPG I play.
As for the Psyker in the Hadron contest? It was going to be a comic shot of Hadron in the corner with a black lightning bolt page separator, looking down at to the left on the page at the Ogryn, who was holding the Psyker like a Twin Stubber, who wielded a shock staff. On the shoulder of the Ogryn was the sharpshooter, perched on the shoulder like a parrot. With the image of Hadron it was going to be that quote she uses when you’ve gathered all the samples “Auspexes like, you can only be only analyzed if…” (and something or other) the point of the caption in what she said is that the team is very odd and further analysis must be made to understand their level of unorthodox when handling Hadron’s missions.
The additional joke in the caption below all of this is “Ogryn really knows how to carry a team.” As sort of a motivational poster style.
I hope one day to be included in these art projects, using all the tools that I know how to use. I just don’t understand the argument against AI. At all. I have yet to find someone who can explain it to me in a way that follows logic.
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It’s a very nuanced topic and one that’s still finding and feeling it’s way through the courts of law and public opinion.
But the TL;DR is that these AI models and datasets, in particular image based tools are almost (almost) always trained on images created by artists and without their consent. The topic is ongoing and turbulent and as such, we (and many others) try to avoid incorporating AI assisted/created art work in these kinds of promotions or competitions.
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See, that’s the part I don’t understand. People can trace, people can download images and make them black and white or erase stuff in the middle of the “lines” so that they can color it themselves. What’s the difference?
You could completely copy someone’s style and replicate it. What’s the difference? The amount of time spent on a piece of work? As I said earlier, I don’t make prompts based off of images I don’t have consentually. Stock photos only that are provided for free.
I guess the long and short of it is… This just baffles me. I really don’t understand the issue. I comprehend what’s being said, but I just don’t see the perspective since people do it anyway with tracing or completely replicating someone’s art style. I get “How to Draw” books. Not all books give you permission or show you how to draw every cartoon out there. Yet people do it. So, is this a thing where in order to make those decisions you already have to be a successful artist in areas where I cannot be successful in spite of 20 years of making the attempts?
Im gonna be real here, I’m frustrated. Because now that I feel as though I’ve found a way to finally get “in” and create unique works that haven’t been created before, that are either base on stock photography, or my own works that I feed into it, or combination thereof. Following that up with photoshop further shows how removed it is from the original piece that I was using. So you see, It’s a crutch for a mentally disabled guy who figured out a way to make his brain work to get what he wants on paper now. Maybe I’m genuinely selfish/thief and I just never knew it?
I haven’t found anyone to be able to talk to about this because everyone I have spoken to (even some childhood friends) just completely shut out all discussion about the topic so that I can explore it and understand it better.
I want to understand.
Sorry this was so long.
Edit: I’m not typing all of this to cause a rukus or a fight. I just ironically want a human to talk to in regards to AI who wants to listen just as much as I do, and might have more answers than me. Which is, strangely in my experience, an oddly low bar that for some reason, can’t be reached on this topic.