Give Zealot an "opt out"

It’s OP because it’s bugged, I think, but making zealot play nicer with two things in the entire game really isn’t much of a buff. It doesn’t impact him at all in like 95% of situations, and even in those leftover 5% he can just get hit a bunch and do fine.

It’s just quality of life stuff to make team regen not impact him, and honestly it’s pretty fitting with the theme of a self destructive, borderline suicidal zealot to not be impacted by team based regen.

When I play a premade and no one is healing me passively or directly, I get what you are calling a buff to the class. It already exists, it’s not a reward, it’s what the class is. The fact that you would make this statement at all is ridiculous to me. And it tells me that you are only here because you get some perverse pleasure out of saying no, arbitrarily to provoke a negative response and derail the thread. Either that or you have absolutely no clue what you are talking about and are simply screaming at the wind, trying to provoke people. Thankfully, it’s not up to people like you.

How dare a Zealot ask for a quality of life increase and a barrier to trolling. How awful a person I must be in your eyes…

Health regeneration, with the consequence of not having you in the team. Seems like a win-win situation to me, with your attitude…

I mean, the point of health regen hurting Zealot’s playstyle is valid feedback, sure. Something that prevents Zealot from taking unwanted heals, yeah cool idea worth exploring. But we’re talking about a situation in which two players want to play different incompatible ways, and your attitude is pretty much to decide the only solution is that the others have to change. Let alone the bit about how you - replying to your own imagination instead of other people in this thread - went off on a rant about gleefully shooting players full of crossbow bolts for the unforgivable act of crossing you. I mean, okay? You going through some stuff?

You are replying to a comment that says the exact opposite of what you are claiming I said, so I don’t know what to tell you.

Unchained high overcharge gameplay forced to use her ult on ff is same I think? Its out of your control if pepElgi shoots your arse with hagbane

I was more replying to you in general. Perteks told you, in an admittedly undiplomatic way, to “Deal with it.”, and your replies were basically: “Oh, I’ll deal with it alright… By shooting my teammates! Bwahaha!”.

I don’t know why you feel people on a videogame forum should regard you as some sort of “bad@ss”, but your replies aren’t really making us see you that way, and they don’t exactly make you come across as a well adjusted person either…

Wat.

It is a buff, tho… you want Zealot to be able to deny a core resource in order to stay strong.

If I went down from playing badly as Zealot, got picked up and healed, clearing a wound but only refilling thp, that is way more than a QoL change, it’s a buff. It’s an undue reward for a bad play. The class is strong enough.

I have a fkn perfect idea then. Lets make Zealot’s “faith” is being able to take damage at cost of your teammates healthbar :joy: Idea is taken from eq2 shadowknight “bloodletter” ability.

You know… I think people would respond to your topic differently (most likely less offensively) if you were not so determined to “in-between lines” say how are other players bumb for “intentionally trolling your play style” simply by existing.

From what you said in your initial post I really wonder what do you expect the other players will act like when a random zealot shows up and starts telling everybody what traits in their build they should and should not use, what they can and cannot pick up, and how they should use their heal-share in the “correct way” that will not affect you.

I think that quite a great number of people here agree that this can be an issue to Zealot players, but in the end, it is you who decided to go for this play style and you don’t rally have the right to tell others that they cannot use talent X or do a full-book run just because there is a GK HP regen passive on the grim.

We will see if and how Fatshark decides to address this, and they probably should looking at the rising possibility of new careers being more supportive HP-wise, but please, don’t go into random matches and expect people to change their builds just because you showed up.

From my experience with Zealots, most of don’t take it so seriously, and those that do usually don’t remain in the match for long.

in fairness Unchained isn’t exactly a stellar class currently

she’s pretty damn sad tbh

I’ve honestly run out of energy trying to correct this misconception in this thread. I’ve explained it multiple times, and I am really getting tired of repeating myself. So please, show me where I said that I demand that people change their talents.

The first sentence of your post.

When you are picked back up you are at half hp, and it’s all temp health, and while wounded temp hp drops slower. Why would you heal in the first place? I play the entire map wounded on purpose, from the beginning. You are describing a scenario that shouldn’t happen.

Do you have some new dictionary that changes the definition of “ask” to demand or tell?

This is what I’m talking about, you all are making me out to be a jackass for asking a question. You are imagining that I’m going into these groups and bullying people from the hub world forward. If they refuse to change their talents, I leave the group. I am not belligerent towards them at all. The only people that I get hostile towards is people who heal me with medpacks after I have specifically asked them not to.

Your tone is very aggressive, man.

It has become aggressive, it didn’t start out that way.

I dunno, your post is already hyperbolic. If you’re getting healed then just take damage lol.

Explain how it is hyperbolic. And I’ve already addressed your second statement multiple times.

Yeah, just take damage as you go. Your only point here is that it’s would be a neat little quality of life change. And yes, you absolutely do demand people to do certain things. You demand people to not take grims with GK, you demand WS to switch talents and so on, and if they don’t comply, you leave. That’s literally a demand. An ask would mean that if the other person doesn’t comply, you continue playing, that’s absolutely not what you do though.

No it’s not a demand at all. A demand would come before some sort of consequence. Do you consider me leaving a match before it even starts a consequence? Because now YOU are being hyperbolic.