There are still plenty of Nurgle servants to choose from. So no need to change the theme of the game. Wait for Darktide 2.
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So, among the chaos gods, none really get along but they are sometimes willing to forge alliances, especially to achieve some greater goal before inevitably stabbing each other in the back. However, each god has an opposite that they despise more than the other two and will almost never work with unless at least one of the others is also there to sort of bridge the gap. Khorne and Slaanesh are opposites and so are Nurgle and Tzeentch.
Keeping that in mind, it’d be more likely for one of the other two to make that first appearance. If the rumors of the 6th’s disillusionment with the Admonition’s plans are true they could end up shifting to a more chaos undivided/undecided stance and end up reaching out to other cults in the neighborhood. But that might require some heavy changes in motif and alternate map skins and such.
That’s exactly why I fear FS may add Blood Pact
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Well even in cases of similar/copied enemies I feel like they’re trying to make them stand out more than just shading them in different colours.
Like for example the Dreg Grenadier vs the Scab one.
They clearly are the same/equivalent unit and are easily recognisable as such (which is something that ought to remain even if new factions happen), but they don’t look the same, and the Dreg one does offer a new flavour with the Death Head Grenades
Which for example, I’d see the equivalent for a new factions one being based on something similar to the following:
Khornate Enforcers: (Concussion grenades ?)
Fused with some Corpse Grinder aesthetic
You see, what’s the problem.
We already had experience in Vermintide, they released beastmen. Only beastmen are creatures of chaos, which means: allies of the Skaven and the northern Chaosites.
The Genestealer Cult in 40K are implacable enemies of chaos. As a result, it will not be possible to make maps with mixed opponents, because they will have to fight among themselves.
No, I also, in general, like the idea with the Genestealer Cult, but why is everyone so fixated on them? There are the Hrud, for example. Or the Dark Eldar, who have plenty of cannon fodder in the form of slaves or failed experiments of the Haemonculi.
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You might be tempted to think that at first but beastmen and skaven are actually mortal enemies. In fact, the beastmen hate skaven even more than they do humans as their Under-Empire exemplifies all the worst aspects of human civilization that the beastmen already despise. To make matters worse, the skaven stole one of the largest and most sacred herd-stones (which happened to be made of warpstone). The word went out to all the herds that skaven are to be hunted at all costs.
So having them allied in VT2 is a bit hand-wavey already. The lore reason is that the Rotbloods kind of act as the go-between in the Pact. Clan Fester needs to heal their breeders (or at least make them fertile again), the Rotbloods promised to help with this via Nurgley soecery and want to loot in the meantime, the beastmen bring extra muscle and get to cause mayhem to the Empire. So they more-or-less get along, for now.
Thus that precedent does kind of permit some wriggle-room in alliances going forward but I would sure prefer for it to attempt to make sense and provide an in-universe explanation at the least.
There are two potential new factions that are already in the scenario and already fighting against the Moebian Domain. Daemons are the most obvious and we already have a daemon monster; we just need to fill in the rest of the units. And the xenos threat from Nox Alpha, the “Noxians” a significant portion of the “Darktide” and the main enemy of the Moebian Domain for the last 10,000 years. Frankly, with the way the story is written, it would be bizarre if they DIDN’T show up.
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The other side of Atoma getting infected by the Orks would be pretty cool. Going to fight in some old outposts or mines infested with loads of Ork fungi 
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In usual times yes, but this is the End Times, where Chaos started to work more closely with the Skaven, so while it being something that is strange is correct, it also doesn’t really happen to be implausible.
On the other hand, Genestealer working alongside Chaos is much less plausible.
I don’t think he will give fatshark the hrud
The hrud are supposed to be an incredible lovecraftian threat that death watch struggle to deal with
Our band of rejects and inquisitorial adepts wouldn’t stand a chance.
Yeah, I forget. All the Chaos Gods collectively agreed to stop being chaotic in order to advance the plot.
Yeah, that might be part of it. I guess I figured it was less of the typical god vs god chaos dislike thing and just a good ol’ standard blood feud.
Because they make the most sense as being in a Hive, other main game Table Top faction don’t as much, or they’re not characterised upon it.
So people point at them and think, hey why are they not in game.
Which don’t matter due to being a minor faction, at most we could see Hrud or lesser Xenos factions being in an rpg game, like Rogue Trader.
Because Dark Eldar don’t really match well with the setting of the game, so people don’t really get brought up as much.
Yes, and that’s what I think would be the basis they pick if new factions happen, just picking local cults that join the fray.
Nothing short of a smashing good time! They could parody the seriousness of Atoma.
I am not sure about all the green, and whoever is still “new” to 40k universe might not understand Ork and Nurgle cant mesh… or can they?? zombie orks?!
Chaos isn’t above engaging ork mercenaries like freebootas or such and ork freebootas are not above taking work from whomever will give it, but in large-scale conflicts they are unlikely to work towards a common goal for very long. The more orks gather, the more it fuels their Waaagh! instincts and a Waaagh! isn’t going to serve anyone else’s purpose. The Warbosses always have too much force of character for that.
okay i get who’s with whom and so on.
but so far the only thing speaking against the genestealers would be “not co-operating”.
isnt that the whole idea? a total new roster of enemies in a same-ish amount of new maps to spice things up?
maybe in all this vertical abundand space thats the hive city a few 1000 kilometers in floor space wasnt totally or only sparsely occupied by the moebian thus genestealer saw their chance, hatched their aberrant or whatever they are called, kick ass and claim territory ?
we get “temporary” stuff all the time, albeit on a much smaller scale.
twins are dead/but not, even the vendor servitor isnt one for newcomers.
so there’s really no “timeline” in a sense of forced progression, one could play dark communion and do twins hardmode 2 weeks later.
options are there, immersion for the most part (and for me) is only from mission to mission and on that exact map.
other than that its groundhog day 40k version without bill murray 
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Yeah seems like it wouldn’t be a problem lore-wise, besides anything can be explained with decent enough writing anyway.
Speaking of lore, I’m almost through the The End And The Death books and have already gotten through a substantial amount of HH.
I wish there was more interaction with orks and tau etc. are there any book where there are other enemies instead of just chaos? I’m pretty sick to death of chaos. I’m enjoying the books but damn I just want to hear about some of the other factions lol
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- The Beast Arises is mostly against orks but there aren’t any ork perspectives. Some chaos ones among the many POVs but they are more of a side enemy.
- Ciaphas Cain series has tyranids, tau, necron, orks, and, yes, chaos off the top of my head. I don’t think I’ve read the later books yet. He kept mentioning an episode with the Dark Eldar as one of his most harrowing personal moments but I don’t know if he ever gets around to actually recounting it.
- Forges of Mars are interesting too. Lots of AdMech PoVs and even some Eldar. Enemies in that are mostly hereteks but not overtly chaos as far as I remember but it’s been a while.
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Amazing thank you! Yeah they don’t have to be from the xeno perspective but just would like to see more of the dynamic of the races within the lore.
Space Wolves has a fair bit of chaos, the second book has Orks, Tyranids and a few others as Ragnar helps an Inquisitor. It does revolve around the thousand suns but William King does a fantasitc job of exploring other races, setting the world up for new readers.
An you could always go with Helsreach if you want a true Waghhh!
Yes, it is. I would be interesting to hear from FS if they wanted to keep new enemies specific to the 2nd city (or space hulk).
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Im just starting the twice dead king series. Which is Necrons. Brutal Kunning is Orks. Fun Book.
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