I was pretty active here while I was helping out on Darktide. People didn’t like what I had to say, but I was most certainly in threads. ![]()
Unfortunately I think the fact that your user was used to author certain statements/blogs, such as the infamous confusing cosmetics shop, kind of soured perception of you, probably particularly for people who didn’t know you from V2.
Yeah I get that. Those blogs were worded super poorly. I can’t get into details here but launch was a wild time both internally and externally. Catfish really helped a lot coming in with Comm Links.
Oh I bet!
When it drops, I expect to be able to craft/upgrade roughly 20 weapons to perfect condition, with the exact blessings and perks I want, with maxed stats.
Using the materials already on my account. Without a minute of grinding.
Catfish did a lot, actually. She deserves her own little timeline story arc. We had regular bi-weekly updates about 6 or 7 times I think, before that got shut down.
Aqshy was active a lot, but she was clearly responsible for VT2.
As for Hedge, I mean he tried. But nobody liked what he had to say. But afaik he was the only one with the guts to giving outright “no, that won’t happen” as answer.
Ooooh, ooooh!!
Can I please have two of my characters added to the game as NPCs?
Both my Psyker and Veteran are well-developed characters with fully written stories, and I have a lot of photo edit material for them.
Pleaaaase???
I’ll be a good boy, I promise!!
Hank, I’ll be honest, I don’t know you from Adam, so it’s very difficult to trust that play testers 1) aren’t simply going to sign off on whatever Fatshark does, or 2) even if they’re going to give feedback matching what most players actually want, that they have any power to see that feedback acted upon.
If Fatshark listened or the play testers were giving feedback in line with player priorities, this game would already be fixed. That it isn’t points to a level of dev incompetence that is frankly staggering. I find it honestly difficult to believe that a company manages to have executives this stupid and still remain afloat.
I have, quite literally, seen more and better patching from one-man early access titles than I have from Darktide, a game which allegedly has the largest team working on it out of Fatshark’s games.
And now we’re being told that their ambiguously worded dev statement means that a month from now all we’re getting is a single map and some weapons that will crash on impact with the garbage that is ‘crafting’.
Hedge’s issue was always his uncanny ability to insert his foot into his mouth when things were really on fire.
I don’t think so at all. He was always taken out of context and his words interpreted in the worst possible meanings possible. He was a chill dude and his texts should have been read as such - Alas, written text lacks all the nuance and detail a spoken voice provides.
He made about 2 snappy comments throughout all of his time on Darktide and from there on out, people were on a hate train on him. That even continues now, long after he is gone.
In my opinion, some people nowadays are both, too aggressive and sensitive at the same time. They like dishing out, yet they don’t like eating what they them self serve up. But of course, timing was bad, too. And people did have reason to be upset with promises not being met.
If you ask me, Hedge got caught in the crossfire.
I don’t understand where these concepts come from. Play testers do not have any authority in this system. They do not “sign off” on anything and they certainly do not ‘have any power to see that feedback is acted upon.’
Play testers are testers. They test and give feedback on things that have yet to be finalized and pushed to the live game. The most amount of power they can exercise is delivering a persuasive arguement to a slightly more direct channel than you can in a forum post.
I fear most people here have never been in the post of being a playtester, and thus end up not understanding what a playtester is able to do or not
So what you’re saying is that I’m correct, and that Fatshark will just straight up ignore feedback regardless of where it comes from?
There is a world between: Playtester don’t matter
And Playtester will decide on what FS will release
Ignore. / Discard as unfeasible. / Decide it’s against their vision and decline to use. / Implement in a mutated fashion that probably won’t satisfy you in some giant update months or years afterwards.
Take your pick from these scenarios or invent your own for fun. They’re all about as likely.
I completely agree, although I have to admit that I was smiling a little when I watched the Skulls CoD/WH40K announcement since CoD got fantastic looking 40k cosmetics while Hedges, “This is not Call of Duty!” Was playing like a song in my brain. ![]()
In the end it’s always the dev’s decision. Playtester feedback helps provide feedback and may give new insights. But truth be told, when someone is really assured of their work - Nothing can shake that foundation. And when someone is truly unsure about it, anyone’s voice could dissuade them.
I think people forget that here.
Of course Fatshark tests things internally first, then with a trusted circle second. Any dev with a sound mind probably does that.
Now hilariously, it is once again Fatshark’s transparency that comes to bite them. They say honestly how they do their process without hiding it and that upsets the fans. Other devs like the From Soft team just stay quiet for years and then release the finished DLC. But nobody is telling them that’s wrong. Funny how that works.
Yes, most unfortunate “aged like milk” comment in recent memory. But then, crossover content is getting insane. The skins in Fortnite for instance allow you to play as almost anyone from any popular series now it feels like. Seeing a Peter Griffin character jumping around shooting Bart Simpson is weird.
Agreed. People had good reasons for being upset with Fatshark over the way the game launched, but I wouldn’t be surprised if the way Hedge’s comments were received, taken out of context and endlessly ridiculed is why we don’t see the CMs talk much anywhere anymore. A response that vicious would be enough to make anyone think twice about feeling free to speak their mind.
We have Fatshark themselves who say that they won’t release the itemisation update on June 25th if it isn’t good enough, and playtesters who are determined to hold them to that if it comes to it. Everybody understands that this is critical and they have to get it right.
This is some of the honest cool behind the scenes info I was missing.
Like sure we get it sometimes stuff needs to bake for a bit longer.
But if it needs to get more polish then this kinda comunication is 100 times better
Then not saying anything and wating for the update day and just say “sorry guys it’s not comming yet”
That would probably made people livid