This is where we are right now. Fatshark is once again refusing to give any concrete information about anything and the community is getting agitated.
You would think that after nearly three years of this they would develop the pattern recognition skills to understand that telling the community things is good.
But, hey, it’s just another iteration on the same old story.
Fatshark learned they have trouble meeting self-imposed deadlines and that the community will riot if they don’t meet them. So they don’t give info until they are 100% sure.
If by rioted you mean made fun of Fatshark for it’s inability to even communicate changes to a timeline they themselves set, several months after missing any deadline, that, I shall repeat, they set for themselves with pretty much no (as far as we know) financial consequences for missing it, sure.
I’ve heard the reasoning many times, but I’m a player, not a member of their company. I have no idea what’s going on inside. If your wife kept silent and made you guess what happened to her, would you think she was out of her mind?
By “rioted” I think they meant “blew things almost completely out of proportion to almost anything of actual importance in life, held the grudge for years, bring it up at every possible opportunity, and act like FS’s offenses are evil acts done by terrible, stupid people.”
You mean watch Fatshark do almost the same things with barely any improvement for 15 years, then sure. Keep on blaming the customers to downplay Fatshark’s faults and fumbles.
Real talk though, FS earns their grudges. There’s a lot of vitriol sure, but apart from being rude it’s symptomatic of issues that haven’t been meaningfully addressed – a lose/lose for sure.
You know, a truly outstanding game forum environment developer should fully listen to the opinions of players and communicate with them to understand their ideas and thoughts. Players who persist in playing this game are the treasure of Fat Shark. The fat shark shouldn’t be like this. It remained silent as if it were dead, and then suddenly showed up and said, "Hey, I have a new update.
We’re 3 years into DT. They have improved. The famous VT2 post doesn’t really ring true to me any more. The key point relevant to this topic is that they didn’t release a roadmap and instead announced a regular content release cycle they’ve stuck to for 3 years in spite of console ports (which, as an aside, have feature parity and crossplay).
I didn’t fall in love with DT as my first real FS experience and set out to become bitter and resentful as a personal goal (which I know some gamers enjoy).
FS made that happen through both action and inaction.
Your point (while a valid one) is more than a little undercut by the fact that none of this is happening in a vacuum and the end result is greater than the sum of its parts.
None of these missteps are isolated incidents. Moreover, simply put, nobody likes feeling ignored, taken for granted, talked down to, feeling shortchanged, or being on the receiving end of multiple broken promises. Then you add to the mix seeing competitors giving superior results or at least treating their customers as adults and with a bit of respect.
We all have different values and perhaps we’ll just have to agreed to disagree, but under the circumstances, I think it’s disingenuous to imply that being miffed is unreasonable, or that the consternation is unjustified.
I’m not being disingenuous because I truly believe (it’s my opinion) that bringing up things from many years ago, like the roadmap or the big code mismatch situation, and ignoring the actual improvements FS has made to keeping promises (sticking to the quarterly schedule, actually releasing Versus, having the closest thing to a broken promise in 2+ years being that the vet weapons aren’t out yet), is lame.
We probably have the neuralgic effect of the owner. Do you think that being bought by a Chinese group or another changes anything or not? The impernerability of certain cultures is nevertheless known to all. Perhaps it is time to hold Tencent and not Fatshark to account.
Fatshark was like this before the Tencent buyout. I think the only changes you might be able to reasonably lay at that corps feet are the cash shop mess and the outsourcing of cosmetics, and I’m not sure off the top of my head that those don’t actually predate Tencent to at least some degree.